uk, pedo death cult or weird custody case?

[tron]

*WARNING* - triggering material, no explicit imagery but disturbing content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtncDnCRPYo

this is abit of a weird one, is it being discussed here yet?

oh cool, sorry i forgot the trigger warning

who put that up for me?

[elfismiles]

the youtube account has 3 vids all uploaded 5 days ago with I think the same kids...

Henry Curteis
https://www.youtube.com/user/holottatrubal/videos

... and I think each video contains this text:

Published on Feb 2, 2015

as described -
Dear Home Secretary

Anybody who watches these privately taken videos is convinced.

This is to alert you to the fact that I have just added your email address to the petition that I published on https://www.change.org/p/the-rt-hon-chr ... ian-family

I did so as an individual rather than co-founder and web publisher of the Association of McKenzie Friends, for our Chair Mrs McKenzie had been asked by Mrs Justice Pauffley to give an undertaking, even on behalf of her colleagues, NOT to publish anything. Is ‘corporate gagging’ now a new permissible facet of the secrecy of family courts!?

Unfortunately, Mrs McKenzie has also lost complete faith in the Judge after she assisted the mother in court. She says: “Not having as yet ‘come to her decision’ = judged, she did not grant a level-playing-field between the parties regarding Contact in the interim, as if already ‘presuming’ one side to be ‘less innocent’ or ‘more guilty’ than the other. This was plainly wrong and has laid the judge open to accusations of bias.”

As the petition describes, it requests the return of the two children to their Russian mother who were taken into ‘care’ after they reported the crimes of their British father. However, in the attempt by Barnet and Metropolitan Police to cover up rather than investigate, and by LB Barnet to keep the children rather than return them, the latest unacceptable proposition was to increase the contact between the abusive father who sees his children already on a weekly basis, while the mother is only allowed every two weeks.

I trust that you know how Sir James Munby invited courts to take the realities of the internet into account, especially Social Media.

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The attached Position Statement was our offer NOT to expose this scandal in exchange of returning the children. Instead, Mrs Justice Pauffley ignored the issues that have been outstanding since Judge Mayer transferred the case to her on 23 December:

The justification for an Interim Care Order.
The discussion of a Non-Molestation Order.
The inequality of Contact.
Instead, the Judicial Review filed on 22 December 2014 is attempted to be stymied and two barristers have suggested that evidence should be destroyed! Furthermore, LB Barnet want to write not only to all interested parties that include 3 MEPs but also the mother’s list of witnesses.

In the wake of your efforts to make a National Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse happen, you will know how important it is for victims to be believed. Anybody who watches these privately taken videos is convinced. But the mother is supposed not to make use of them!

Can you maybe at least pretend to ensure that there is some proper procedure in any of the institutions mentioned?

Or maybe you can just ask the Executive Director of LB Barnet, Andrew Travers, to return the children with immediate effect?

With many thanks in advance,

Campaigner

http://tapnewswire.com/2015/02/courts-w ... -punished/

https://audioboom.com/boos/2823318-mich ... se-inquiry

[Bryter]

Saw this on reddit earlier. There are more interviews with the children here. This is some of the most disturbing info I've ever come across. Also, probably triggering.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

[Jerky]

Wait... what the fuck is this supposed to be?! Have the authorities been notified? Is there any way of finding out?

These children are in immediate DESPERATE danger. What do we do?

[Wombaticus Rex]

I would appreciate it if someone who has been down this rabbit hole will clarify if this involves imagery we should be flagging in the OP.

[Jerky]

Not imagery, Wombat, but the kids are casually describing their participation in ritual sacrifice of infants, horrific sex abuse and Satanic rites the likes of which we've all no doubt heard about before. They seem coached to me (or maybe it's just because I'm horrified by the possibility that their incredible tall tales could be true), and they seem to have been in the care of someone with a DUNE fixation ("Fear is the mind-killer").

To be honest, I'm just as worried about the people they're currently in care of as I am about the possibility that they actually took part in such rituals. If their current caretakers are kukoo enough to plant these ideas in their heads, what else are they capable of?

MT

[Nordic]

I only clicked on this thread out of boredom.

Then I saw it was about this.

I'm glad somebody posted about this because I'd seen the thread at reddit. I considered posting about it here but there's no way I'm going to watch the videos. I just watched The Mysterious Skin a couple of nights ago and still need a lot of time to get that out of my brain.

This headline is terrible. Just btw. No offense, it just doesn't give a clue as to what the thread is actually about.

I'm glad it's here now because I know we have a lot of people who are experts in this kind of thing who might be able to sort it out.

I can't stomach these things personally. I'll watch SITE videos to see if they're real but I can't take this stuff.

[Project Willow]

The headline should be changed to something less sensational and triggering.

Big caveats here, I am not a child psychologist. While I firmly stand by the standard that we must believe the children, we must believe what every part of their being has to tell us, body language, physical, psychological and emotional states.

The effects of ongoing rape and torture do not just disappear, *poof*.

If you feel up to it, watch this from the 3:00 mark for comparison:

[Bryter]

I am not a child psychologist either but something about the childrens body language makes me believe them. At apporiximately 2:17 in the video the boy, Gabriel I think, names the girl Alisa as one of the people who kills babies. The look on her face at that moment is one of extreme fear and she says something like "do not say my name".

Also, Willow, I read on this facebook page that the children were sometimes put to sleep. I wonder if it's possible that this is the reason they are still able to talk about the traumatic event without reliving it.

The children are frequently injected to be put to sleep, those who can't tolerate pain and scream too much: Alisa, Gabriel, Sophie, Mia, Luka, Marco, Max, Clark, Lindsey, India, James, Lisa's (RD's sister) children. The children are being injected my the school nurse Ms Marden.
Children who do not get injected: Millie, James, Callypso, Clark, Max, Leon, Cartney, Ryan, Keva, Luca, Uraj, Sebastian, Alex E, Georgia, Violette, Natasha, Elleanor.
After injections children feel pain in the belly, dizziness, headache, numbness, weakness, limbs. Artyom Lamanov (Russian), Luca Lamanov's father is the supplier of the pharmaceuticals soporific medications.
https://www.facebook.com/araya.soma/pos ... 9000318203

According to the mother she reported it to the police and the children were examined and they found signs of rape, but that the case was closed after the children retracted their statements!

However, six days after reporting the crimes to Barnet Police on 05 September 2014, the children were taken into ‘protective custody’ and subsequently to two different foster carers. Medical examinations initiated by the Police confirmed scarring in the rectum area of both children. The hearing of the boy is impaired due to the father’s hitting and excessive shouting. Two weeks later, the Police told her that the children retracted the allegations and that the investigation was closed.
https://nationalinquiry.wordpress.com/2 ... xualabuse/

[Project Willow]

Thanks for that. I don't feel comfortable making any determination, except that there should be an investigation. To make and publish these videos is exploitative in itself. How and where they are questioned, there's no safe space for them to express themselves or process. They appear to be repeating a story on command. I can't think of a reason for making these unless it's some attempt to find safety in exposure. The children will be subjected to peer and public commentary regardless. There are legal prohibitions against naming victims of sexual assault, and these kids have no control over what's happening to them, or the wisdom and experience to anticipate the repercussions if they did.

[Nordic]

Current Reddit thread FWIW

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm ... y_knitted/


I actually tried watching the first video. Didn't get very far. It's all so horrific.

[Grizzly]

Wait. So my post gets deleted without any explanation? Just bam! Gone as if it was never posted. What is that about? To say it wasn't relative to the topic is quite subjective, in that the cycle of abuse is indeed often a cyclical pattern as the Tool song suggests. The cycle of abuse is a social cycle theory developed in 1979 by Lenore E. Walker to explain patterns of behavior in any abusive relationship. That I chose to reply in non verbal form (mostly because of my own triggers of my own experienced abuse) is imo, a shitty thing to do. Perhaps, I'm just mis-remembering posting, like the stupid anchor Brian Williams thread. My, we do live in a PKD, world now. MY post was erased just like Stalin erased, Yezhov.

I couldn't bare to watch, because I have my own, films of my own childhood sexual abuse out there in the wild, and I suspect it has made it to the web, as I infer that all child porn eventually does. Or was it just deemed in poor taste? And if so, by who? One would think they would have the right to know instead of mild cognitive disonance...

[Wombaticus Rex]

Me; it seemed pretty flippant.

Turns out, that was a shitty thing to do.

My apologies.

[Jerky]

My reaction was also removed (which in truth makes sense, because it would NOT have made sense without Grizzly's original reaction post - which I still think was wholly inappropriate, considering the material).

Jerky

[Jerky]

Also, your childhood experience has nothing to do with whether or not posting a video of Tool's "Prison Sex" as a reaction to a thread about the most horrific possible abuse of children was or was not appropriate in a public forum.

Jerky