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Simulist wrote:Michael Mansfield wrote:"The blockade of Gaza, as Hilary Clinton has said, is unsustainable. It is another feature of the way in which Israel is slowly becoming a rogue state."
Israel is "slowly becoming" a rogue state? Just how much misery, genocide, and international lawlessness does a nation have to inflict before it is considered to be already "a rogue state"?
Israel had repeatedly said it would stop the boats, calling the campaign a "provocation intended to delegitimise Israel.
IDF: Hamas stops flotilla aid delivered by Israel
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 2, 2010 2:03 p.m. EDT
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
-Trucks of flotilla aid halted stopped at Gaza crossing
-Clothing, medical material, blankets on trucks
-Material will be accepted by activists after all detainees freed
Jerusalem (CNN) -- Israel has attempted to deliver humanitarian aid from an international flotilla to Gaza, but Hamas -- which controls the territory -- has refused to accept the cargo, the Israel Defense Forces said Wednesday.
Palestinian sources confirmed that trucks that arrived from Israel at the Rafah terminal at the Israel-Gaza border were barred from delivering the aid.
Ra'ed Fatooh, in charge of the crossings, and Jamal Khudari, head of a committee against the Gaza blockade, said Israel must release all flotilla detainees and that it will be accepted in the territory only by the Free Gaza Movement people who organized the flotilla.
Israel said it had 20 trucks of aid found on the ships, such as expired medications, clothing, blankets, some medical equipment and toys.
Israel has released all foreign flotilla detainees by Wednesday, but four Israeli Arabs remain in custody.
Nine people died Monday when Israel intercepted an aid vessel bound for Gaza.
Under Israeli policy, humanitarian aid must come through Israel and be checked by Israeli authorities who are looking to intercept smuggled weapons bound for militants aiming to attack Israel.
As part of this policy Israel forbids ships from dropping off goods at Gaza ports and works to thwart smuggling via tunnels between Gaza and Egypt.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/ ... nians.aid/
Simulist wrote:Yesterday, I watched Chris Matthews for as long as I could. (Almost a full seven minutes.)
He and some terrible journalist from Jerusalem blamed all the maritime murder and mayhem perpetrated by the IDF on the people on board the ship!
For a moment, I supposed that he might be rehearsing a sketch for Saturday Night Live — and then I remembered that Chris Matthews really is that stupid, or at least his loyal fan-base is.
Bruce Dazzling wrote:I walked past Chris Matthews in the hallway of WNYC (NPR) a couple of years ago, and it took all the restraint I could muster to not punch him in the crotch.
Bruce Dazzling wrote:compared2what? wrote:Nordic wrote:Fuck Israel.
I haven't read the whole of this thread, so forgive me if the point has already been made more declaratively than way back at the beginning when 82_28 (IIRC) asked if he was seeing the beginnings of WWIII, but:
I don't see any other way that this can play out. Which would not just fuck Israel, but (off the top of my head) Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon (again) too. And I doubt that the domestic fall-out in Turkey is going to be a very pretty thing for anyone either.
Furthermore, I think that's exactly what one or more powers in the mix -- maybe hidden ones, maybe not -- wanted. For reasons of their own. Still furthermore, although I have no idea how exactly, I have a feeling that in the medium future, some part of it is going to land on Iran.
Or....Forget the details of the prediction, I'm not confident about them, I was just trying to flesh out the bare-bones premise. Which is fundamentally: Oh, fuck. They're going for the Feith/Perle "Clean Break."
IOW, bombing the whole Arab world into rubble.Furthermore, I think that's exactly what one or more powers in the mix -- maybe hidden ones, maybe not -- wanted. For reasons of their own. Still furthermore, although I have no idea how exactly, I have a feeling that in the medium future, some part of it is going to land on Iran.
I believe that there is a group of Zionists and Christian Zionists, AKA the neocons, that want to bring about the end-times, and that this latest incident is yet another in a long line of provocations towards that goal.
The Consul wrote:Ed Koch on Neil Cavuto floating idea that this was the fault of Turkey, later on Barney Frank on Countdown saying same. Ok so imagine there were such a thing as a fairness doctrine. In this case we should have rebuttal from Turkish Americans, Palestinian Americans and actual real journalists and lets say ok someone from Turkey and maybe someone from Gaza....
They really do think we are hopelessly stupid. I can see the next headline
TERRORISTS ATTACK HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS WITH KNIVES AND PIPES
Israel in shock, minimises death toll by heroic sacrifice of men who jumped to the ship to try and talk peace to rabid drug fiend baby killing would be abortionist muslim terrorists found with plans to blow up Yankee stadium and ten pre schools in Kansas.
Thank god we have a free press to give us all the facts.........
(3) The proximate occasion for the provocation came from Turkey. That's so massively suspect in so many ways that I don't even know how to boil them down to the usual three or four 192-word sentences that send the entire board into a stupor in the luxurious style to which we've all long-since grown so accustomed.
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