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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby crikkett » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:59 pm

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This mislabeling the map of New York thing has to be a subversive ploy to keep people watching.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:08 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:HE'S GONE!!!!!!!

HE'S GONE!!!!!!!



Woo hoo.



I'll raise a glass (of coffee now I just woke up) to you and your people Alice.

Enjoy the moment. (But don't forget the bastards are already circling and making plans.)


Right now I'm shedding a quite tear of joy.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:47 pm

Jacob Applebaum of the Tor Project (also one time Wikileaks volunteer and target of HBGary/BoA's cointelpro-like plan) tweets:
ioerror Jacob Appelbaum
Find all of Mubarak's and members of the now fallen regime's assets. Work to freeze them and try all of them for crimes against humanity.

And get's this response:
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@ioerror Mubarak has property in California, around hollywood but unable to find address


These assets will be sorely needed 'cause the "West" can regain control simply through those criminal money-lenders at the IMF and World Bank.

How to find property records for despots? Anyone? :?:
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Nordic » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:54 pm

I've got LinkTV on all day, channel 9410 on DishTV. Lots of Al Jazeera coverage, good stuff.

Shit. Tears in the eyes again, watching a woman in the crowd yelling how proud she was of her people.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Nordic » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:55 pm

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@ioerror Mubarak has property in California, around hollywood but unable to find address


I'll gladly deliver a bag of shit to that place, if anyone can find the address.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Project Willow » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:03 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:HE'S GONE!!!!!!!

HE'S GONE!!!!!!!



I have no words, only some to borrow, and mostly just tears. What a glorious, glorious day!
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:11 pm

ThomasRHart Thomas Gerhardt
@ioerror US government must immediately follow Switzerland's example and freeze all of #Mubarak's assets. That money is blood money!
Do it!!! Do it!!! Do it!!

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:16 pm

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Nordic » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:20 pm

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/0 ... _wait.html

Great photos, as always, from this site.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:01 pm

Mubarak gold in the UK:

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Some Q as to whether these are fakes. Selections from the comments, in defense of their legitimacy:

That's 620 BILLION US dollars, which is over three and a half trillion Egyptian pounds. That's roughly 1/6th of the US Federal budget and about 16 months of Egypt's GDP. If frozen and returned to Egypt, it would be $7500 for every man, woman and child in the country. It's also 9 times any other figure I've seen mentioned for Mubarak. It might be real, but I have to be a little skeptical.

But if it is real, holy shit!

Posted by: Graham | Sunday, 06 February 2011

Fake or not, this very well explains the mechanism of money making. It says someone made an investment in the YEAR 1976!!!

So the Barclays International Bank in 1976?? Well, many things used to have different names back in 1976.

It is useful to have a look at the system in which it works
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_%28finance%29

And "FACE VALUE" international deposit is just that. Nobody says "real value" :D

In other words, if you promise me not to ask return of lended money for 35 years, I can easily sell you 620 billion USD bonds for 55 billion dollars OR LESS. That is the depreciation of real value of money. If it was investment instead, it could have the return of say 10% a year, it would be 22 billion dollars in 1976.

However, the Swiss company exists and the man signed there does too, and he is an expert on international relations, wears a BEARD and comes from a nation said to have very skillful hands!

I simply DO NOT WISH TO KNOW MORE. Even if it is faked, it all makes sense, even if the real investments are in hotels, luxury resorts, yachts, etc. you name it.
We know of the London palace the young one owns. If there is more - good for them. No envy from me!

And I would not want to be in his skin walking around in his city!

Posted by: Gustaf | Sunday, 06 February 2011


These companies are "operating" from
27 Lauriston Street, Edinburgh, EH3 9DQ
Phone: +41-79-6259670 (this is a Swiss Mobile Phone)
Fax: +44-207-6811959 (Efax no.).

These companies are "directed" by
Lord Richard Cummings, Chairman
Dr. Urs Schneider, Director

2. Dr. Urs Schneider (SIGNATORY ON SKR)
05-21-1964 born in Stein am Rhein/CH
President of
Charles Lafitte (Schweiz) AG
Zum Zollikof 6
CH-8260 Stein am Rhein
The company is officially cancelled (Commercial Registry
Switzerland, Tagebuch Nr. 314 vom 02.03.2005)

3. See no. 1 above: Morgan et Fils Ltd.
Urs Schneider represents
Morgan & Son Limited
Registered in Scotland
Registered Number SC 252147
Phone: +41-79-6259670
Fax: +44-207-6811959
(same numbers as for Caledonian Banking Group - see
no. 1 above)
This company is still registered for
Morgan & Son Limited
27 Lauriston Street
Edinburgh EH3 9DQ
Comapny No. SC252147
(same address as for Caledonian Banking Group -
no. 1 above)
Just for your information?
So 1st document bank and signatory are real things AND I see no obvious mistakes.
Regardless it is widely known that Mubarak has great wealth whilst his people struggle daily.

Posted by: Kelly | Sunday, 06 February 2011



Kelly you beat me by a minute!

http://www.offshorealert.com/message_bo ... 2&page=249

I was going to post that too.

But that is not all!!

The British FSA lists the Caledonian Banking Group as a money laundering operation - well I do consider all unauthorised banks to be money laundering operations!

http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regul ... rnet.shtml

Simply, even if the sum of 620 billion USD seems to be a way off (still, where would one get 10-30 billion USD in 1976??) All the stones fit into each other, this simply looks real!

Posted by: Gustaf | Sunday, 06 February 2011


I is widely known that swiss companies with foreign CEOs, etc. starting with the ECO* or *TRADE or INTER* are money laundering operations primarily serving customers who are statesmen too.

So if these documents are fake, they are dome with real people and real companies which already deal with very real money laundering operations, that includes the Barclays Bank - support for Zimbabwe dictator, funny arms trade, etc.

I just wish this was a joke. I really do.

Posted by: Gustaf | Sunday, 06 February 2011


Ecotrade Invest AG on Google Finance. Looks like it existed for a few months back in 2009:

http://www.google.com/finance?q=ETR:EKY

(Given the temporary nature of this company, it would agree with the theories of a money-laundering holding company)

Caledonian Group website:

http://www.caledonian.com/index.php?pageId=75(Compare the crest on the website with what's on the document, it is very close)

AboveTopSecret.org is currently doing a full analysis on the authenticity of these docs:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread659855/pg1

Posted by: Sam | Monday, 07 February 2011


ATS, eh? :|



Meanwhile lots more discussion in Arabic and English at the blog. Very interesting: Money laundering, an officially unrecognized UK bank, links to Bin Laden group. Also, if real we will have to revise our conception of just what "wealth" means to the grossly wealthy.

http://misrdigital.blogspirit.com/archi ... in-uk.html
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Plutonia » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:28 pm

Frozen assets include Mubarak's associates and others:

...

"I can confirm that Switzerland has frozen possible assets of the former Egyptian president with immediate effect," spokesman Lars Knuchel said soon after Mubarak bowed to 18 days of mass protests. "As a result of this measure any assets are frozen for three years."

He did not say how much money was involved or where it was.

Assets belonging to Mubarak's associates would also be targeted so as to limit the chance of state funds being plundered, the ministry said. Mubarak and his associates would be prevented from selling or otherwise disposing of property, notably real estate.

In recent years, Switzerland has worked hard to improve its image as a haven for ill-gotten assets.

It has also frozen assets belonging to Tunisia's former president Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali, ousted by popular protests last month, and Ivory Coast's Laurent Gbagbo, who has refused to step down after an election which the outside world says he lost.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/ ... 3820110211


*cha-ching*
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby justdrew » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:32 pm

way to go Confoederatio Helvetica :thumbsup
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby DrVolin » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:39 pm

Yes, now that there has been a military coup, things will get much better.
all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby anothershamus » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:59 pm

Now See The 11 Countries At Risk Of Becoming The Next Egypt

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-next-revolution-after-egypt-2011-2?slop=1
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Kate » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:44 pm

Nordic wrote:
Plutonia wrote:Quote:
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@ioerror Mubarak has property in California, around hollywood but unable to find address


I'll gladly deliver a bag of shit to that place, if anyone can find the address.


And I'll be happy to meet you there with a pack of matches to set that bag aflame. :wink:

Seriously: Once again, all the best to Alice, her family, and the whole family of brave and honest citizens of Egypt. I'm glued to Aljezeera/English, looking on with awe.

And I shouldn't forget to say -- many thanks to you, Alice, for all your thoughtful posts which helped me understand so much more and feel the strength of your passion for justice. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for justice...
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