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AD, I understand your frustration about the David Icke stuff. What the hell is wrong with some of you; what are you missing? Icke supports Zundel- not a neutral cause- one chooses one's battles- that equates to Holocaust revisionism. Icke says that the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" doesn't implicate *all* Jews in the global conspiracy, only the controlling conspiratorial cabal. Very cute, but the point is that "Protocols" is a FAKE DOCUMENT, probably made up by Russian intelligence under the Tsar. And a great Icke quote:
"Jewish people are simply wonderful when they allow themselves to be who they really are. They have such a contribution to make to the good of the world. But I have rarely met one who really loves themself or does not carry the burden of inherited guilt."
...does not carry the burden of inherited guilt. So Jews have inherited a guilt, huh? More than Christians, aye? If this isn't blatant anti-semitism, then wtf is?
Oh yeah- Zundel, Protocols of Zion, and reptilian bloodlines- this celeb is great for the cause of deep politics.
sergeant stiletto wrote:Maybe it's just as important who else believes this stuff. Remember this story about the Collin's Elite - a secret cabal in the Air Force who think aliens are demons, etc.
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2010/09/f ... -nick.html
At the heart of these stories, which all seem to run along the same vein - the elite are controlled by...something - might be a kernel of truth.
They instigated a large-scale study of Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley in the late 1940s and early 1950s, believing them as being partly responsible for the ushering in of the UFO mystery in 1947 - Parsons via his "door-opening" issues and Crowley, after he contacted the alien-like LAM. The CE also established a large-scale investigation of the alien abduction phenomenon in the early 1980s that reportedly was of great interest to the Reagan Administration.
sergeant stiletto wrote:Maybe it's just as important who else believes this stuff. Remember this story about the Collin's Elite - a secret cabal in the Air Force who think aliens are demons, etc.
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2010/09/f ... -nick.html
At the heart of these stories, which all seem to run along the same vein - the elite are controlled by...something - might be a kernel of truth.
Canadian_watcher wrote:barracuda wrote:Canadian_watcher wrote:edit: besides, what differentiates one from being a journalist and best-selling author from being a 'serious' scholar/scientist?
The paper? The acceptance of the universities or the MSM? What? Please, enlighten me.
I think it's a matter of training, essentially.
... Training often leads people down the same paths over and over while restricting some paths altogether. Training is a form of legislation in many respects, and those who choose to retain their good standing in any professional discipline often make sacrifices in their research for the sake of it.
Some excellent research and analysis have come from the untrained.
Wombaticus Rex wrote:I'm kind of baffled why you guys are bringing up the looting in response to my points. It's true, I was only speaking to the actual locations of bases...since that's the part the US was, you know, actually responsible for.
Did any US soldiers engage in looting? I was under the impression Iraquis did that themselves and they were angry after the fact because the US did nothing whatsoever to secure and protect those landmarks and collections. (Which had no strategic value, esp. compared to, you know, oil.)
Were there MI6 Agents in turbans smashing up the museums? Is my impression wrong?
[/quote]IanEye wrote:*One aspect of Cars2 sure to raise eyebrows is the odd subplot where Lightning and Mater take the hallucinogen "STP" through their intake manifolds and trip through the streets of Tokyo, only to end up floating over a hotel room while Sally gets, shall we say, "armor-all-ous" with an Isuzu Trooper.
While some might question whether this is appropriate viewing for kids, there is no denying the innovative nature of this transgressive transmission of a montage.
http://pixartimes.com/2011/01/13/returning-cars-2-character-images-descriptions-video/*
Canadian_watcher wrote:barracuda wrote:Both Yonaguni Monument and the so-called Bosnian pyramids have been extensively examined and studied by amateurs and academics alike. Realistically there are very nearly no significant archeological sites which have not drawn pretty serious attention and study.
wait a second.. I forgot to call you on this.
I can't figure out how you would know that there are no sites being ignored.
Isn't that like saying that there are no elements that we don't know about?
Saurian Tail wrote:That's a really weak argument Wombat. If you are a thief and there is a total breakdown in security you head straight for the priceless artifacts. The US could have easily protected the museums and didn't. The museums in Bagdad were not second rate museums. Those museums were of utmost strategic importance if your goal is something other than resource extraction.
vince wrote:Not to go OT, but my joke for "Cars 2" is.....: So, I assume that a Pinto is gonna play a suicide bomber?
Wombaticus Rex wrote:Saurian Tail wrote:That's a really weak argument Wombat. If you are a thief and there is a total breakdown in security you head straight for the priceless artifacts. The US could have easily protected the museums and didn't. The museums in Bagdad were not second rate museums. Those museums were of utmost strategic importance if your goal is something other than resource extraction.
So I'm realizing I don't even know what you're saying if we're arguing, I thought I was stating facts. This paragraph seems to be saying exactly what I was saying. No?
I'm saying I see no evidence of occult anything at work. US base locations are driven by geography and logistics, not ancient history. Ancient history also happens to have been driven by geography and logistics, too, hence the 1:1 overlaps.
The looting was not executed by Americans, it was executed by Iraquis. I don't see any goals for our invasion of Iraq aside from resource extraction. I don't see any evidence for the argument there were other goals. If anyone has that evidence, please post it.
8bitagent wrote:I always believed there was an esoteric angle to Iraq, besides the metaphysical feasting on endless death and chaos.
I mean, Iraq used to be Sumer and Babylon for goodness sakes...and ya look at the total standdown of the museums, the US raids on ancient sites...something is up. It wasnt just the Nazis on a quest for ancient artifacts. Im not surprised when my lefty pals laugh when I say that(they still think Iraq was all about American oil, buahahahah) but even amongst truthers and parapolitical researchers its a tough sell.
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