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[MayDay]

I don't know-- I really like cats. They're like, my favorite animal, so I feel personally offended right now. But I can (sort of) see where you're coming from. Nothing new.

[MacCruiskeen]

What if every time a recruitable young girl saw a cat...she remembered that woman named "CATlett" and her mistreatment by the USG?

She would be insane.

Next up: What if every time a recruitable young boy saw a hamster...he remembered that place named "hAMSTERdam" and its occupation by the Nazis?



It chills me to the bone.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

I doubt the overt content is any more undigested than any supposed embedded propaganda.

Wrong. You kid, right?

Know statistics on reading?
Everyone sees the ads, the posters, the covers. Few statistically watch/read the whole thing.
This is so basic to psyops and I've been pounding this for years....I can't believe you ignore this.

I think ignoring the ostensible message in books and films is really one of the weakest aspects of your analysis.

Wrong. I don't ignore the content. But I start at the beginning, the cover/poster/ad.
And I analyze the content much more closely revealing how it is designed to deliver psyops without seeming to.

Again, that is soooo basic to psyops, I can't believe you ignore this.

The subtext, the more deeply hidden the better, is all that matters to you, and perhaps rightly so in the context of a UFO conspiracy forum. Happily, that's not the case with most people.

Wha?? Was that a meme-reversal? Did you just equate being savvy on subtext with being a UFO buff??
I've exposed how psyops was designed into the UFO hoax and reject people who keep spewing it.

I don't expect works of pop culture to spark or drive revolutionary politics on the ground, but inasmuch as they work to show totalitarianism in a poor light, and highlight the cruelty of state oppression, I can be thankful for that.

You're missing the counterpropaganda decoys of exactly that, REAL WORLD "cruel state oppression."

There are plenty of films and books that attempt to instill patriotism and militarism directly to the viewer, so I appreciate those that don't.

Wrong. Obvious is for one mindset/capability. Tricky and subtle is for other brains.

the theme of the film is clear -

Wrong. see all above.

Regarding "mockingbird", it's worth keeping in mind that code names like this are chosen for their very ability to hide as completely innocent and innocous words. How is it that they are able to do that? Because these words are commonly used without any reference to the codenamed operation. Shocking.

Wha? That made no sense at all.

Anti-smoking ads are cleverly designed to sell smoking. Same thing.

Care to support that assertion? I suppose that's why the rate of smoking in the US has decreased by half in the last forty years, because that clever trick is working so well.

Wow. No logical refutation in that one from you again. Hmm.

Oy. I'm off to a hopeless start, apparently.

Nonsense, you're quite right to question these kinds of posts. They're silly. Worse than that, they form a kind of propaganda of their own, in which artworks which denigrate fascism are consistently twisted against themselves to become, in Hugh's polemic, their own opposite.

Another meme-reversal dismissal of CIA psyops?
'Mockimgjay' and 'The Mockingbirds' just isn't obvious upon examination and I'm an eeeevil fascism cover-up artist?
Alrighty then....

Very educational thread, I think.

[orz]

Reminder that Hugh has made 9626 posts (4.14 average per day) since 23 Nov 2005 yet has zero following for his ideas. Even the timecube guy had a few people at least pretending to subscribe to his theories and making their own websites about them.

He doesn't even seem to really post them anywhere else online as far as I can tell and this seems to be the place most receptive to his notions yet, even from the open minded posters here, he can barely ever muster more than a grudging acknowledgment of his having linked to some interesting material for research, or that he actually had an ok idea for a moment but then ruined it with scattershot free-association on the 'keyword', or just kneejerk emotionally-led defence of him against 'trolls'.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Next up: What if every time a recruitable young boy saw a hamster...he remembered that place named "hAMSTERdam" and its occupation by the Nazis?



It chills me to the bone.

Good example of interference theory counterpropaganda.
.
Soldiers suing the Pentagon for being unwitting test guinea pigs
was meme-reversed into guinea pigs turned into soldiers.

Courtesy of CIA-Disney, 'G-Force'
viewtopic.php?f=44&t=23154

[orz]

oops, quote =/= edit

[Project Willow]

OMG, my friend Kelly is in on it!

[MacCruiskeen]

Try telling Hugh gently that his equation might be a wee bit less than mathematically stringent proof, and by Jove, dearie me, you'll be sent off with a flea in your ear, and no mistake, I tell you.

Because here's Hugh's Equation:

Word X reminds me of word Y, therefore HINT HINT + duh + WAKE UP SHEEPLE + eyeroll-smiley.

The worst thing is: I am not joking, nor am I even exaggerating for comic effect.

[orz]

You forgot the part where someone calls him out on some really obvious flaw and he instead of addressing the issue just starts copypasting massive tl;dr rehashes of his previous posts on unrelated topics

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Wow. Like ringing a bell...the adamant deniers rise up with ad hominem scorn, not science or history....

"Lexical decision tree
Semantic priming
Recency effect"
etc.

Lists of science I've posted for years.

Know how marketing works?
Child developmental psychology?
Conditioning?
Indoctrination?
Psychological Operations?

I didn't make any of it up.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Ah, no such thing as association or memory. Good one, Mac.

C'mon. All of human culture is made of it.
See 'the last one hundred years of media.'

[Elihu]

yet has zero following for his ideas.

i wouldn't go that far. his analyses have interesting historical references. all i know is that the products of the celluloid mill suck. banal repetitive predictable. so how could something that sucks endure? answer: a conspiracy to eliminate alternatives. the idea of a market where purchasers choose product to satisfy their needs is inverted. the producer satisfies its needs via captive consumers. the content is constructed to reenforce a negative feedback loop. if this idea is accurate it would follow that the product would necessarily contain recognizable patterns betraying the goals and designs of the conspirators. hugh may be onto something.

[MayDay]

Wow. Like ringing a bell...the adamant deniers rise up with ad hominem scorn, not science or history....

"Lexical decision tree
Semantic priming
Recency effect"
etc.

Lists of science I've posted for years.

Know how marketing works?
Child developmental psychology?
Conditioning?
Indoctrination?
Psychological Operations?

I didn't make any of it up.

This thread is so not worth it, but...
Really?
Adamant deniers?
Are you aware of where you are?
Do you just randomly spam your theories around the web, or are you only given a soapbox on RI? Nevermind. The question has been asked and ignored for too long to even be relevant at this point.

You should be happy for what you have- an intelligent forum where you can broadcast your suspicions amongst those who can (kinda sorta) see where you're coming from and won't simply dismiss you off hand. I doubt you'll find that anywhere else on the web.

[MayDay]

yet has zero following for his ideas.

i wouldn't go that far. his analyses have interesting historical references. all i know is that the products of the celluloid mill suck. banal repetitive predictable. so how could something that sucks endure? answer: a conspiracy to eliminate alternatives. the idea of a market where purchasers choose product to satisfy their needs is inverted. the producer satisfies its needs via captive consumers. the content is constructed to reenforce a negative feedback loop. if this idea is accurate it would follow that the product would necessarily contain recognizable patterns betraying the goals and designs of the conspirators. hugh may be onto something.

You've got it. Now either drop out of society completely, which is mostly what I've done ([precarious at best, but damned interesting ) , or try your best to forget, cause you can't have both.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

My op seems to have been trolled away into posts about me again. Typical.

Reminder: Hiding reality with fiction, co-opting girls, normalizing and justifying weapons,, Scholastic, CIA media, hunger, US history of oppressing hungry poor women, names, 'Mockingjay,' 'Operation Mockingbird.'

Your response to 'G Force', Mac?
You brought it up. Follow up on the thread I handed you.