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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby lupercal » Thu May 17, 2012 12:14 am

JackRiddler wrote:Well the bikini example is totally believable to me. Compelling, even. Very bizarre otherwise. Plus, you're naming the engineer. Hugh's Rango/Rongelap makes no sense, and "Castle" is just a joke because it's a very generic word. And these are so many years later, when no one in the supposed target demo would even know or care, no matter what current stories may be digging it up again.


Thanks Jack, I’ll get to barracuda's epic refutation later, but to cut to the chase, while there’s a slim-to-infinitesimal chance that the Réard tale checks out, I see no chance of Rango-Rongelap being coincidental, none. First off, there's the success of the Bikini-bikini KWH, the convenient effects of which, even if they were a fortuitous accident, can’t have gone unnoticed by the US agencies charged with administering the Rongelap cleanup, which appears to have reached several conclusions, only to be rejected by the thrice-relocated Rongelapese, who are currently awaiting their fourth and final resettlement:

https://marshallislands.llnl.gov/rongelap.php

Likewise the Bikini atoll, though it’s not terribly clear from the current Lawrence Livermore fact-sheet, appears to have never quite reached the feasible resettlement stage:

https://marshallislands.llnl.gov/bikini.php

Secondly there’s the Rango character, who in the poster looks like ET, only emaciated and mutant, with gigantic eyes and lips and lizard-like skin, holding a large plastic fish and wearing an Hawaiian shirt:

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So what are the chances that a genetically damaged Pacific Island fisherman is not an allusion to the Rongelapese, who left their atoll a second time in 1985 because of radiation contamination of the food supply? I'd say none. Why would the USG be interested in keeping their story hidden? Probably for the same reason Native American claims don’t get a lot of ink, namely, it doesn't want the liability, which it's apparently been trying to shake since 1957. From the end of the 1990 DOE summary:

ARTICLE X - ESPOUSAL

Section 1 - Full Settlement of Claims

This Agreement constitutes the full settlement of all claims, past, present and future, of the government, citizens, and nationals of the Marshall Islands relating to the nuclear testing program against the U.S., its agents, employees, contractors, citizens, and nationals.

Section 2 - Termination of Legal Proceedings

The RMI [Republic of Marshall Islands] shall terminate any legal proceedings in the courts of the Marshall Islands against the U.S., its agents, employees, contractors and "citizens and nationals" involving claims arising out of the nuclear testing program.

ARTICLE XI - INDEMNITY

Subject to Article IX the RMI shall indemnify and hold harmless the U.S., its agents, employees, contractors, "citizens and nationals, "from all claims set forth in Article X, and all future actions on behalf of the RMI in any court arising out of the nuclear testing program. The indemnification shall not exceed $150 million.

http://www.hss.doe.gov/Healthsafety/IHS ... ron/#chron


Apparently that exit didn't work out as planned, and it wouldn't make the next attempt any easier if campus do-good organizations took up the cause, thus the ongoing counter-intelligence effort, would be my guess.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu May 17, 2012 12:21 am

lupercal wrote:So what are the chances that a genetically damaged Pacific Island fisherman is not an allusion to the Rongelapese, who left their atoll a second time in 1985 because of radiation contamination of the food supply? I'd say none.


Quite so! But...what are the chances that Rango is "a genetically damaged Pacific Island fisherman," though?

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby barracuda » Thu May 17, 2012 12:31 am

lupercal wrote:I’ll get to barracuda's epic refutation later...


Don't bother on my account. I mean, by all means do it if it makes you happy, but it was really just a convenient excuse for me to post pictures of women in bikinis.

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby barracuda » Thu May 17, 2012 12:40 am

Also: Rango? I saw it in the theater. Not a bad movie, really. Startlingly abstract in its own odd way. It ought to make for an interesting exercise when Hugh takes it on in his epic frame-by-frame mode.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby jingofever » Thu May 17, 2012 1:10 am

Is Rango a "near homonym" of Rongelap? Is this not a transparently bullshit claim to make? It is a near homonym of Django. That tells you a lot more about what the film makers were trying to do.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby barracuda » Thu May 17, 2012 1:45 am

Actually, I think they were likely riffing on Johnny Ringo, notorious outlaw gunslinger and cousin of the Younger brothers. It wouldn't exactly be the first time this has happened, you know. And the film is a western, after all.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby barracuda » Thu May 17, 2012 1:56 am

That's not to say there isn't some real Hollywood-style propaganda associated with Operation Crossroads. Of course there is.



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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby jingofever » Thu May 17, 2012 1:56 am

barracuda wrote:And the film is a western, after all.

But so is Django. Oh well, let's meet halfway and agree that they took the name from the Rongelap Atoll.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby barracuda » Thu May 17, 2012 1:57 am

Oh, djang it, I thought you meant that two-fingered Reinhardt fellow. Psyops get so confusing sometimes.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby peartreed » Thu May 17, 2012 12:21 pm

And here I thought Rango was just another of Orphan Annie's "Leapin' lizards!". But maybe Daddy Warbucks was also CIA.

HMW asked me, above, "Back to the tired 'paranoia' line again?"

Actually, I was using paranoia in the general usage sense of unwarranted suspicion of others (as opposed to the medical definition). On May 02, 2012, for example, on the "Dollhouse" thread page 4 0f 4, you asked me to "'fess up" to being "Chip Berlet" of the CIA. I noted that on the September 4, 2011 page 9 of 11 on the "Primary Sources..." thread you told C2W that she sounded like Chip Berlet too. You also suspected both of us might be professorpan in those exchanges. Check 'em out.

That you see spooks controlling all media, scripts and culture (according to your signature lines and many posts saying so) I suspect you may be suspicious of others generally, and I think unwarrantedly so. But then this is a conspiracy theory site and by definition we all are.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu May 17, 2012 3:15 pm

peartreed, to be clearer, I was not accusing you literally of being Chip Berlet or professorpan.

I was accusing you of promoting the same misleading themes that Chip CIA Berlet does and compared2what does and professorpan did and others will continue to use in the future-
the "paranoid conspiracist" stereotype and other diversions away from psyops central.

Was I wrong? Nope. You did it again...again and again...

c2w even posted this lovely syllogism-
'Blaming so much on CIA = scapegoating, just like jingoists = fascism.'
Yes, allegedly outing CIA psyops is a fascist thing to do, according to compared2what. ..whoa.
Now that's one of the slipperiest assertions I've read on this board, a real meme-reversal, an Orwellism.

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"Situational Awareness" is defined by the U.S. military as
the ability to identify, process, and comprehend the critical elements of information about what is happening to the team with regards to the mission.


Scholars call it acquired knowledge or "intelligence."

But you can call it "paranoia" all you want.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu May 17, 2012 3:39 pm

Back to the scripts right in front of our eyes for contextual analysis to discern agendas.

Today's New York Times front page has a banner ad for Disney-Pixar's 'Brave' animation.
The image is a long red-haired girl with yet another bow-and-arrow, just like the recent 'Hunger Games' movie.
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By yet another remarkable coincidence, this photo is at the top of the news cycle for the last 24 hours-
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That's Rebekah Brooks, the former News International chief executive, being indicted.

Think there's a psyop timing coordination here? I do. Both the design of the movie and the timing of the ad.
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Re: Castle-Bravo, 'Castle,' Rongelap, 'Rango'

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu May 17, 2012 4:03 pm

A technique for designing these psyops scripts is to hijack mnemonic hooks, tie them to opposite associations, but at the same time put the audience through a pilgrimage of catharsis to assuage the anxieties they might feel if/when exposed to the 'hostile information' the spooks are trying to minimize.

The narrative trip exploits what is called the Elaboration Liklihood Model. This means that if you take a long time to get to a viewpoint, you'll probably hold on to it out of a sense of commitment to its validity.

And this Elaboration Likliihood Model of narrative-evoked catharsis is a form of Inoculation Theory.
Inoculation theory is used to achieve "refutational pre-emption," in propaganda science jargon.
This means dissuading you from an undesired viewpoint by covertly showing why it is not worth holding.

A good way to take advantage of both Interference Theory and Inoculation Theory at the same time is to design the context of the cathartic narrative with some key reversals.

A good example is CIA-Disney's summer 2001 priming for the invasion of Afghanistan called 'Atlantis: The Lost Empire.'
Instead of a story in the sand where everyone has black hair, it's a story in the water where everyone has white hair.
A young Pentagon-anthropoligist-type develops a relationship with a local character named "Kida," as in al-Queda.
And also a character named "Tali," as in Taliban. I'm not even kidding. Look it up.

The same technique is evident in 'Rango,' a desert story intended to influence views of an ocean island story.

Re: criticisms of Castle-Bravo, 'Castle,' Rongelap, 'Rango'
Examine, words, themes, images, context, precedent, agenda, etc.

0) Recheck the dates. They are perfectly aligned.

1) 'Rango' and Rongelap are near homonyms.
The extra syllable, "lap," might be why he's clutching a bath/swimming pool toy.
Also introduces the 'water' theme to the 'desert western.' and evokes some kind of oasis image.

'Finding Nemo,' too. You can't miss it. Now we're being brought closer to the tropical island mirror.
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And that CIA-Disney story was a water-themed story illustrating that
only Father Can Save You and was full of decoys of CIA's MKULTRA-
female 'lacking intelligence' with severe memory loss, stuck in 'the tank,' focus on "Sydney" [Gottlieb], his limp ("damaged fin"), the "EAC"....and 'Finding Nemo' was itself a decoy of an older CIA-sci-fi novel decoy by Ron Goulart, 'Nemo.' Also about MK-ULTRA.

2) Castle-Bravo and 'Castle' are homonyms.

3) The theme of the radioactive dirt removed and the troublesome US AIr Force bomb are mirrored in the name of the animation town, "Dirt" and the threatening 'hawk' and a cathartic plot about reaching safety.

4) A chameleon is known, even to kidz, as being 'adaptable to environment,' which is what the Pentagon would like kidz to optimistically think of the returning natives of Rongelap.

Extra psyops credit about a CHAMELEON as a main character -
A woman victimized by the CIA's MKULTRA human experiments wrote a 1994 book about it
called...'Chameleon: The Life of Dorothy Proctor.'
http://www.ctka.net/pr300-mkultra.html

When she was giving interviews in 1998 due to an award-winning documentary of MKULTRA called 'The Sleep Room'
...there was a 1998 decoy movie of her, too.
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All psyops tricks have been done many many times so I don't show you 'singular events.'
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby barracuda » Thu May 17, 2012 4:38 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:c2w even posted this lovely syllogism-
'Blaming so much on CIA = scapegoating, just like jingoists = fascism.'
Yes, allegedly outing CIA psyops is a fascist thing to do, according to compared2what. ..whoa.


That's a flagrant misquote if I ever saw one. Here's the original:

    I'm serious about the politics. And I feel seriously that to concentrate so exclusively on the insidiously evil actions of a single group that's responsible for all the woes of the republic is always a dangerous thing. As I've written to Hugh, in slightly different words: Whether society learns to hate and fear the Demon Jew, The Demon Jihadist, or The Demon CIA, at the end of the day what they learn is to hate and fear as a society.

    And that's never been good for anybody except fascists. When push comes to shove, that's to what I feel compelled to object. Factually dubious assertions are a political liability too, of course. But at least they can be corrected; a fear-and-resentment-based culture is pretty much at the mercy of whatever organized force succeeds in pushing the majority's buttons the most effectively ad infinitum. Know what I mean? That's how the terrorists really have won, to whatever extent they have. And I don't just mean the parties responsible for 9/11.

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:0) Recheck the dates. They are perfectly aligned.


Not really. Rango premiered March 4, 2011.

1) 'Rango' and Rongelap are near homonyms.


What is a "near homonym"? A homonym is one of a group of words that share the same spelling and the same pronunciation but have different meanings. If anything, "Rango" and "Ronge-" are barely even homophones, words that share the same pronunciation, irrespective of their spelling. Maybe you'd better coin a different linguistic category to cover words which are neither spelled the same nor pronounced the same but which you feel should be connected in some way which allows them to fit your theory.

The extra syllable, "lap," might be why he's clutching a bath/swimming pool toy.


Or it might have something to do with driving in a circle, or with drinking liquids using one's tongue, or with coming from Lapland.

2) Castle-Bravo and 'Castle' are homonyms.


Actually "Castle" and "Castle" are even more closely related than homonyms, being that they are the same words with the same meanings. I'm not certain just what the linguistic nomenclature is for that phenomenon. Samewordonyms? Sameonyms? Identinyms?

3) The theme of the radioactive dirt removed and the troublesome US AIr Force bomb are mirrored in the name of the animation town, "Dirt" and the threatening 'hawk' and a cathartic plot about reaching safety.


I don't know what movie you saw, but the one I saw didn't have anything in particular to do with "reaching safety".

4) A chameleon is known, even to kidz, as being 'adaptable to environment,' which is what the Pentagon would like kidz to optimistically think of the returning natives of Rongelap.


Not really. Chameleons are known for their ability to change the color of their skin to blend into their surrounding and thus disguise themselves. They are not called "adaptameleons". "Chameleon-like" does not mean "adaptable".
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Re: Castle-Bravo, 'Castle,' Rongelap, 'Rango'

Postby Simulist » Thu May 17, 2012 4:49 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:'Rango' and Rongelap are near homonyms.

Huh. Sorta like "homonym" and "honeybee."

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