Lindorff: Why such secrecy about Craft Int. in Boston?

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Re: Lindorff: Why such secrecy about Craft Int. in Boston?

Postby hiddenite » Sun May 12, 2013 2:46 pm

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lupercal wrote:my quickie du jour is that if Craft was responsible for the bombs they probably could have found a less conspicuous place to rendezvous than the finish line. So I wonder if they're not basically decoys, aka patsies, like the CIA prof? The problem with him is, how is he supposed to have radicalized little brother when his own politics are apparently anything BUT radical? If young Tsarnev was influenced it seems more likely he'd enlist in the marines than plant a bomb in Boston. Unless as justdrew suggested they thought were helping out in a drill. I also wonder if they were ever actually there. They seem awfully indifferent to any bomb action if they were.


You've all seen the original Manchurian Candidate, right?
Appearances can be deceiving. Truth can be as strange as fiction.



Williams is the guy who asserts there is no link between AlQ and Chechen rebels. This was a very important notion during the inquiries before Sep 11 as testified by Colleen Rowley and others. Currently USA is supporting the rebels in Chechnya as part of great uncle Fuller's soft controlled islam initiative, that he started with Iran Contra and continued into Afghanistahan Syria etc etc . It is therefore not surprising if the Russian FSB looked askance at Tamerlan during his last trip and monitored him, suspecting perhaps he was a conduit of support to the rebels, as per USA foreign policy. . Nor is it surprising if FBI suspected the brothers of being agents of FSB, there is family history .
Williams therefore is not a radical except in the sense that he legitamizes the Chechen struggle , which is fine for now, but gets tricky when you want Putin 's support agreement blind eye over Syria. Which has not happened . USA wants to keep Russia busy in Chechnya while protecting the potential oil pipelines and maybe the drug routes.
Me I wonder what happened in Dzhohar's head when he googled his great uncle and his high school mentor and saw his relation to the 2 with fresh cynical eyes.
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Re: Lindorff: Why such secrecy about Craft Int. in Boston?

Postby FourthBase » Sun May 12, 2013 3:12 pm

Me I wonder what happened in Dzhohar's head when he googled his great uncle and his high school mentor and saw his relation to the 2 with fresh cynical eyes.


Great question.

Great visual, too. I'd imagine: " :ohwh "
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Re: Lindorff: Why such secrecy about Craft Int. in Boston?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun May 12, 2013 11:32 pm

lupercal wrote:my quickie du jour is that if Craft was responsible for the bombs they probably could have found a less conspicuous place to rendezvous than the finish line. So I wonder if they're not basically decoys, aka patsies, like the CIA prof? The problem with him is, how is he supposed to have radicalized little brother when his own politics are apparently anything BUT radical? If young Tsarnev was influenced it seems more likely he'd enlist in the marines than plant a bomb in Boston. Unless as justdrew suggested they thought were helping out in a drill. I also wonder if they were ever actually there. They seem awfully indifferent to any bomb action if they were.


Yeah, the craft angle seems a little obvious. You'd have to assume they aren't that stupid. Unless they are. I mean if they're (craft Int employees) used to doing this sort of thing in places where there isn't panoptic surveillance by everybody. Setting off bombs then turning up to clean up the mess and investigate or whatever. In which case maybe they didn't think about it.

But even tho i mentioned that possibility, its hard to see it being the case. if there was a drill, then maybe they are there as part of it, and had no idea of things going live (probably imo). Maybe the drill was cover for an attempt to stop the brothers (or someone else) detonating the bombs.
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Re: Lindorff: Why such secrecy about Craft Int. in Boston?

Postby FourthBase » Sun May 12, 2013 11:51 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:
lupercal wrote:my quickie du jour is that if Craft was responsible for the bombs they probably could have found a less conspicuous place to rendezvous than the finish line. So I wonder if they're not basically decoys, aka patsies, like the CIA prof? The problem with him is, how is he supposed to have radicalized little brother when his own politics are apparently anything BUT radical? If young Tsarnev was influenced it seems more likely he'd enlist in the marines than plant a bomb in Boston. Unless as justdrew suggested they thought were helping out in a drill. I also wonder if they were ever actually there. They seem awfully indifferent to any bomb action if they were.


Yeah, the craft angle seems a little obvious. You'd have to assume they aren't that stupid. Unless they are. I mean if they're (craft Int employees) used to doing this sort of thing in places where there isn't panoptic surveillance by everybody. Setting off bombs then turning up to clean up the mess and investigate or whatever. In which case maybe they didn't think about it.

But even tho i mentioned that possibility, its hard to see it being the case. if there was a drill, then maybe they are there as part of it, and had no idea of things going live (probably imo). Maybe the drill was cover for an attempt to stop the brothers (or someone else) detonating the bombs.


It's entirely possible that today's mega-perps are stupider than before, or more desperate.
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