David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:23 pm

82_28 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:48 pm wrote:I think this thread is hilarious. It's hilarious because it's so not an issue. Alien Human Hybrids exist and do not. That's my take away.

I think the catalyst was Mr. Bilderberg being drawn here by AD. Once he was drawn here all hell broke loose because we saw a condescending "outsider" lay it on to us.

Like I said in my very first comment in and of this great and storied thread was "fuck this guy". Let me tell you all, this kind of shit doesn't get under my skin at all (oops). In fact, possibly the only reason I responded as I did to begin with is because I had just gotten off work. I carry that shit with me. For that I apologize. However, I deal with goofballs all the fucking time, so I don't quite mind barbs and pokers. I just tell them (you) what I think of them and that's my job. The term "fuck" is probably a little different for me than others. A goofball is still a goofball.

Let's just all simmer down and go back to our business of providing content for one another.

1) No. We are not an Icke cult
2) No. We couldn't give a shit less EVEN IF what he says is true
3) No. We won't be condescended upon by an outsider
4) Yes. We are all perfectly capable of all remaining Internet friends
5) No. Nothing has changed
6) Yes. We are all anti-fascist, anti-racist and anti-misogynist and all inclusive
7) Yes. We are gathered here in order to make sense of "reality"
8) No. Dicks and cocksuckers aren't allowed as far as the site's guidelines

Peace and Amen.

Seriously. Peace and Amen.


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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby General Patton » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:12 pm

82_28 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:48 pm wrote:I think this thread is hilarious. It's hilarious because it's so not an issue. Alien Human Hybrids exist and do not. That's my take away.


1) No. We are not an Icke cult
2) No. We couldn't give a shit less EVEN IF what he says is true
3) No. We won't be condescended upon by an outsider
4) Yes. We are all perfectly capable of all remaining Internet friends
5) No. Nothing has changed
6) Yes. We are all anti-fascist, anti-racist and anti-misogynist and all inclusive
7) Yes. We are gathered here in order to make sense of "reality"
8) No. Dicks and cocksuckers aren't allowed as far as the site's guidelines


Let me go on record as not being anti-racist or anti-fascist or anti-misogynist. I distrust these "anti" movements as their sole claim to fame is that they are "not as bad as".

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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby 82_28 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:50 pm

So now, not only are we pro-reptilian, we're also now racist, fascist and misogynist? WTG, patton.

Bro, it's a given around here. Don't trust any of it. That's your call. You know the drill around here.

Fuck this motherfucking thread is a trainwreck.

I trust everyone. And when I say that RI is anti-this/that then it is. Why? Because I am here because I know that I am all those things because that's the very reason for this joint's existence.

You know that RI is all of the things delineated and described. Too bad you didn't scan the page in full. I also added all-inclusive and not be a fucking cocksucker. So I trust that you trust that it's all inclusive. Which is good and a win win.
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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:51 pm

Also, you should really stipulate that the "no cocksuckers" is at best a personal in-joke, and not an actual policy here.

General Patton » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:12 pm wrote:I distrust these "anti" movements as their sole claim to fame is that they are "not as bad as".


Yup. I have yet to see a viable "solution" for Fascism that didn't sound a lot like Fascism.
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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby 82_28 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:57 pm

Here. This just sprung to mind as I just remembered that one of my favorite bands has this as an icon on all of their webpages.

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In fact, I even have (below) a quote from a song in my sig. Yes, there is ANTI everywhere when injustice and shit like that exists. Go on not trusting your friends. Much luck.

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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby General Patton » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:58 pm

82_28 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:50 pm wrote:So now, not only are we pro-reptilian, we're also now racist, fascist and misogynist? WTG, patton.

Bro, it's a given around here. Don't trust any of it. That's your call. You know the drill around here.

Fuck this motherfucking thread is a trainwreck.

I trust everyone. And when I say that RI is anti-this/that then it is. Why? Because I am here because I know that I am all those things because that's the very reason for this joint's existence.

You know that RI is all of the things delineated and described. Too bad you didn't scan the page in full. I also added all-inclusive and not be a fucking cocksucker. So I trust that you trust that it's all inclusive. Which is good and a win win.


It was moderate trolling mixed with truth.

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edit: It as in my comment
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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby compared2what? » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:11 pm

Canadian_watcher » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:06 am wrote:well that's bogus because they can teach about the Second World War Holocaust without traumatizing little kids. And you know it.
They don't bother to traumatize little kids about the Native populations that were decimated, for one example and yet they teach about the colonization of America.

They also don't teach children about Palestine. At all.


There are three whole war-torn continents that children in the anglophone world not only never get taught about at all, but also never learn about at all in adulthood, to the point that most people (including me) can't do more than name a few scattered examples, know next-to-nothing about what's at stake for whom in any of them, and couldn't do better than chance at locating the countries involved on a map.

Furthermore, in this (admittedly liberal-majority) part of the world, if they're teaching children about Israel, they actually do also teach them about Palestine nowadays. But that's kind of current-events dependent, I guess.

They teach World War II because it's the A-number-one foundational story of cold-war and post-cold-war American/European myth, which is still the predominant contemporary myth in most of the west (and all of the anglophone west). And they teach the Holocaust because that's (ostensibly) what made it a righteous war, which is flatly ahistorical and socially detrimental for reasons that have nothing to do with Israel and/or Jews and/or Zionism.

Because as a result, most people in the Anglophone west don't know enough about fascism to understand or recognize or respond to fascist tactics. They should really be teaching Nazi-era Germany inclusively, and not just the Holocaust.

Seven is MUCH too young to see those movies. Wow. I'm not so sure they should show them at all. But we didn't see them in school until 7th grade. And (IIRC) there were parental permission slips.

FWIW, Shoah's a good movie on accident in some ways, imo. He doesn't do it with the intention of showing their humanity, misery and confusion, but he gives the Poles a lot of screen time during some of the earlier parts of its nine-thousand (or whatever) hours. So if you're the kind of viewer who's attuned to signs of humanity and its suffering, you can't help seeing it.***

It kind of leaves an indelible impression of what war is and does on a level that people who haven't lived through one don't get that many chances to see. (My two cents.)

Canadian_watcher wrote:How can I ask this question without getting tarred and feathered? I wonder to myself. Rattling around in my head is a theory and it's been there a while, but because it involves one of the most taboo topics of my lifetime (and no doubt a generation or so before I was born, too) I am hesitant to ask it.


You shouldn't be. I thought it was a good question.
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***ON EDIT: Just to be clear: The movie takes an equivocal view of them, at best. And sometimes a frankly hostile one. So I'm really speaking about what can be seen, not what's being shown.
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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby American Dream » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:14 pm

How wonderful is this?

REVELATIONS OF A MOTHER GODDESS -- ILLUSTRATED SCREENPLAY & SCREENCAP GALLERY

[David Icke] What have you seen the Royal Family do, the Queen Mother and the other people you’ve seen at the rituals? What have you seen them do?

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[Arizona Wilder] I’ve seen all of them drink human blood, and consume human flesh. And they have their own goblets, they have blood in these goblets which are encrusted with jewels. And they also have their own daggers. And the dagger goes into the goblet, and they stir the blood around with it. But it’s also a symbol of the phallus going into the vagina when they are doing this. And I’ve seen them do this. And some of them even have, like the Queen Mother had her own little, it’s almost between a very elaborate ornate chair or a throne kind of thing, brought in for her to sit. Because before these rituals actually start, people move around the room and talk, or recognize one another. It’s a formal, kind of ritualistic setup the way they talk, and the way they’re introduced and introduce each other. It’s like a court.

[David Icke] What are they wearing?

[Arizona Wilder] They are wearing robes. They aren’t wearing anything underneath the robes. And the robes are very ornate. The one thing in common they have is the red color, like blood. And some of them have purple. And they have gold kinds of lines running through them. They have the Merovingian symbol of France -- the fleur-de-lis -- and there are jewels that are sewn in at certain points on these robes. And they wear these robes, but they don’t wear anything underneath these robes, because what is going to happen, what the rituals are all about, they are going to shape-shift. And they can’t have anything on under the robes. And there are orgy kind of things that go on at the rituals also.

[David Icke] Involving the Royal Family of Britain?

[Arizona Wilder] Yes, involving the Royal Family of Britain. And the sacrifice and eating of, consuming the sacrifice. And they are involved in that.

[David Icke] You’ve seen them do that?

[Arizona Wilder] Yes, I have seen them do that.

[David Icke] People in Britain, listening to what you’re saying, would obviously be staggered -- I guess anywhere in the world -- but what would stagger them mostly is in Britain, the Queen Mother, has an image of being the nation’s grandmother, the nice old lady, and good ole Queen Mum, what a lovely lady. What’s your experience of the Queen Mother?

[Arizona Wilder] She is very cold in reality, and she is very cruel. And she is very different than she comes across to the public. She’s cold-blooded. If she feels that you are someone beneath her, even in the Illuminati you’re not her equal, or your station is above her, she will not speak to you, she will not recognize you. She obviously, from what I see, enjoys consuming human flesh. It’s sickening. The one person that she seems to be afraid of is Pindar.

[David Icke] People would also look at the Queen Mother’s elderly frail stature, and find it very difficult to see her taking part in rituals, and doing anything, if you like, active. Do they go into a different state in terms of age and strength, and all of these other attributes, when they actually shape-shift?

[Arizona Wilder] Yes. The human body that they choose to occupy, or take when it was young, it ages. But when they take the reptilian form, these reptilians live hundreds of years. And so they have to have taken more than one human body to live in. A lot of them are much much older, and I’m including the Queen Mother in this, older than people think that she is. She’s been in more than one body, human form. And when the time comes, if it is time for her to go on, and it’s still known that she has life or years to go, again, she will be put into the body, the essence of her and the reptilian form, the essence of her will go into another body that also has the ability to shape-shift into reptilian form.

[David Icke] One of the pure reptilian human blood lines?

[Arizona Wilder] Yes.

[David Icke] What happens when, take the Queen Mother as an example, what happens when they shape-shift? What do you see?

[Arizona Wilder] You start to see changes happen, and they are happening so fast that the closest thing I’ve seen to it is what they are now doing with computer technology. It’s just a literal transformation that happens very quickly. And they get taller, and they get bigger. And they don’t look at all as reptilians as they do as humans. And thus the wearing of the robes, because if they were in clothes, the clothes would be torn apart.

[David Icke] So let’s take the Queen Mother on this subject as an example. We recognize her as a frail old lady. What does she look like when she shape-shifts at these rituals?

[Arizona Wilder] She looks like, the nose portion gets very much longer, and it grows into a snout kind of thing. She has fangs, incisors as teeth. There’s a tongue – they all seem to have this kind of tongue when they are at this level – the tongue has a lot of long, hairy, pointed projections coming out of it. It’s very long. And they don’t have hands or feet, they have these claws. And they have scales. And also scales that seem to kind of disappear into one another, but it’s more pronounced on the back. There seem to be lumps or protrusions coming from the head. There seem to be some kind of growth, appendages on the back, and they seem folded. And not all of them have that. And there is a tail. And a lot of times they will keep the tail curled. And I’ve seen her when she’s very displeased with something, as I’ve seen other members like this, this tail is whipped around, very agitated. And she hisses.


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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:43 pm

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....so at this late hour....

....what's the potential conclusion to take away from this?

Is David Icke a third rail?

Is "talk about concepts, not contributors" something y'all feel like we should stick with? Or is it just more gratifying to snipe at each other?

Do we need "The Fire Pit" to be an active forum so people go there and have thousand page threads instead of polluting our pool?

Talk to me.
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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:45 pm

:lovehearts:
This is what Arizona Wilder says:
I no longer (for many years) condone the use of material I made while involuntarily programmed especially for the David Icke video.

His material is not today and has never been my experience nor was the concept of "shape-shifting reptilians" something that I experienced as an unwilling victim at rituals.

I was programmed specifically for David Icke's interview as well as the following Conspiracy Con meeting in San Jose, CA. etc., and David Icke as well as Brian Desborough both knew that I had been programmed to respond this way when they made the video.

In fact, the ring shown in the video was used to certify to Brian Desborough and David Icke that I had been programmed with preset answers and was to be used for this video.

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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:05 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:43 am wrote:Image

....so at this late hour....

....what's the potential conclusion to take away from this?

Is David Icke a third rail?

Is "talk about concepts, not contributors" something y'all feel like we should stick with? Or is it just more gratifying to snipe at each other?

Do we need "The Fire Pit" to be an active forum so people go there and have thousand page threads instead of polluting our pool?

Talk to me.


My take aways
1 I can spot infinite loops / double binds and step away from them
2 I have witnessed how destructive they can be (descriptions such as "I feel like Im going crazy" are not in the class of communications called disagreements over content...
and occured multiple times in this thread
3 That if someone sees every interaction in the context that I am ACTUALLY a racist Holocaust Denier, that no amount of my trying to persuade otherwise will do so, and it will make things worse.
4 That I would rather talk about A.I.
5 That people may cling like a limpet to binary logic when presented with alternatives
6 Sometimes, people dont respondto sincere requests for empathy - but that's ok
7 Can we have this be a non-pseudoskeptic troll board?
8 Most importantly, SLAD's treatment has gone unanswered.
9 I learned nothing new about bloody David Icke
10 That I liked my Rothschild post. Go Me! :)
11 That I *really* appreciated kind comments
12 That I need to go to sleep now
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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby Mason I Bilderberg » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:17 pm

82_28 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:28 am wrote:Sooooo. Have we established yet that nobody here believes in Alien Human Hybrids and possibly nobody on Earth at this time does either?

I thought not.

So they exist, are my findings. In fact, I think they are breeding at this very moment by the entrails RI members know so well.

I just want to see proof that Mr. Bilderberg isn't one so I can carry on with life. I don't just need proof of this, but demand it. Otherwise, you're gonna put me on anti-psychotics again.


Your continued misunderstanding of my inquiry has motivated me to make the attached flow chart. This should clear up the intent of my question.

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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby American Dream » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:29 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:43 pm wrote:Image

Is "talk about concepts, not contributors" something y'all feel like we should stick with.


Yes, also respect the thread- try to keep on topic, unless it's a mutually consensual free-for-all type situation...
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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby Mason I Bilderberg » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:38 pm

82_28 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:29 am wrote:For example, I have told you that 82_28 believes that:

A: Alien Human Hybrids exist

and

B: Of course they do not exist

I don't see what your issue is. It's mapped out above. Both A and B are true.


Forget B. Why do you believe they exist?
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Re: David Icke: Methods Of A Madman

Postby Mason I Bilderberg » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:43 pm

American Dream » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:14 pm wrote:
Canadian_watcher » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:04 pm wrote:
AD, for the love of your personal God (whatever that is)... can you not see that there are human beings who do not need "scientific" proof of things in the way that you do for ideas to be convincingly true?


Yes- they have "faith" in the existence of the (supposed) reptoid masters of Earth- I know. Science fiction is only one of the problems though when deeply pernicious and reactionary doctrines are also attached..


(IE: Shapeshifting)
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