Edward Leedskalnin and Coral Castle

[NewKid]

Jeff or anybody here have any idea what the 411 is on this fella?<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.coralcastle.com/biography.asp" target="top">www.coralcastle.com/biography.asp</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewcolumn.php?id=26" target="top">www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewcolumn.php?id=26</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

Like Harvey Fite and his amazing "Opus 40", Leedskalnin was just a guy with a vision and enough perseverance to pull it off. The legends about levitation are romantic exaggerations based on eyewitness accounts. The photographs that exist showing Leedskalnin using traditional tools and techniques are far more valuable as evidence than the testimony of witnesses that spread by word of mouth. If he was using some sort of magic, it wouldn't have taken him so long to complete.<br><br>It's impressive work, but that's about it. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/7/06 12:53 am<br></i>

[JD]

I think I'm with you on this thoughtographer. I've never seen the site and may change my opinions if I did, but here's where I'm at now.<br><br>People really do underestimate the abilities of smart, motivated individuals.<br><br>For example, check out what this dude can do. He can move really big and heavy stones by himself. No secrets, just watch him do it. Pretty amazing.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theforgottentechnology.com/">www.theforgottentechnology.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Using similar techniques is probably how the ancients moved big megaliths. I'm not sure how exactly they'd move them over rough ground, but this is basically how they probably did it.<br><br>And let me drop the rational pretense for just a minute. Some ancient megaliths are SO big I really have trouble thinking of how they could have been moved by ANY technique. Check this out - 1200 TONS - some fantastic photos:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/9951/">www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/9951/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I love the shot of the massive blocks at the base of the temple. Holy smokes this would be impressive to inspect in person. <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>And let me drop the rational pretense for just a minute. Some ancient megaliths are SO big I really have trouble thinking of how they could have been moved by ANY technique. Check this out - 1200 TONS - some fantastic photos:<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Yeah, Baalbek is amazing. Keep in mind, impressive though it is, that particular 1200 ton stone is still attached to the bedrock below.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This megalith was hewn from red granite, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and is still attached to the bedrock</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Other stones of equal grandeur were quarried in the same location, and carried over half of a mile uphill to the "Grand Terrace" of Baalbek, Lebanon.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Point being: equal grandeur does not necessarily mean equal mass. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/7/06 2:12 am<br></i>

[Avalon]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Like Harvey Fite and his amazing "Opus 40", Leedskalnin was just a guy with a vision and enough perseverance to pull it off. The legends about levitation are romantic exaggerations based on eyewitness accounts. The photographs that exist showing Leedskalnin using traditional tools and techniques are far more valuable as evidence than the testimony of witnesses that spread by word of mouth. If he was using some sort of magic, it wouldn't have taken him so long to complete.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Is this just your own opinion, or have there been comprehensive studies to show how it could have been done by an individual on his own? You dismiss the most prevalent views with a single sentence.<br><br>Perhaps you mistake magic for wiggling the nose and presto, it's done. Magic can, and should be IMO, about change within that is just as important as the change accomplished externally. Process can be as important as the end results, and certainly doesn't have to be divorced from meticulous grasp of ones craft on a physical level.<br><br>For those who don't know the exquisite Opus 40 stonework complex, you can find some information here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.opus40.org">www.opus40.org</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

Both Fite and Leedskalnin were known to work alone. Their work is "magic" enough for me, regardless of what that means to you. I don't appreciate you implying that I have anything but the utmost respect for the work and lives of these people. I almost wept with joy when I set foot onto Opus 40. I have even paid tribute to Harvey Fite's life and work in song.<br><br>To say they NEEDED supernatural powers to complete their work only serves to diminsh their accomplishments and confuse people who are prone to believe anything they hear, especially when it's backed up by the testimony of the great and powerful eye-witness. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/7/06 10:21 am<br></i>

[Avalon]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>. I don't appreciate you implying that I have anything but the utmost respect for the work and lives of these people.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>What I was referring to was the prevailing views on Leedskalnin, not the views <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>of</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Leedskalnin. I understand your respect for him and for Fite, and share it. I don't believe that anyone would ever say that Fite's work was beyond the abilities of anyone to physically construct.<br><br>That there are lost arts (of whatever sort) for moving unbelievably huge and heavy stones, is not in dispute. Witness the difficulties in trying to successfully move a bluestone from Wales to the Salisbury Plain several years ago, with all our current knowledge of mechanics.<br><br>I don't ever use the word "supernatural" except in quotes. I believe that if something happens or is done, whatever caused it is a natural process, though we may not yet (or once again) understand the mechanism.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

I really can't disagree with any of that. My point was really that people would rather think that Leedskalnin "whistled" or "hummed" the rocks into place, and people like David Hatcher Childress prey on the gullible and fantasy-prone by perpetuating the more fantastical myths by presenting them as facts.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>That there are lost arts (of whatever sort) for moving unbelievably huge and heavy stones, is not in dispute. Witness the difficulties in trying to successfully move a bluestone from Wales to the Salisbury Plain several years ago, with all our current knowledge of mechanics.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Yeah, that's a good point to raise here. They really didn't try too many options, as I see it. You could spend years just focusing on lubricants alone. No doubt, there is a ton of lost knowledge that we're only starting to uncover. Take <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Trithemius">Johannes Trithemius'</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Steganographia</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, for example. That wasn't cracked (as far as we know) until 1998, by an AT&T Labs employee, no less.<br><br>The myths and fantasies are a good thing, when it comes down to it. They spark people's imaginations like the (good) science ficition of our times does, and serve to attract more people to the subject than would naturally occur without them. The more minds, the better. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/7/06 1:12 pm<br></i>

[sussurus2]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.coralcastlecode.com">www.coralcastlecode.com</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>My feeling is that whether or not Ed moved several ton coral with magnetism or with classic leverage, he did discover some important aspects of bioelectromagnetricity which we might do well to study.<br><br>Take some time to reflect on what this guy has Jon D. has replicated from studying Ed's work intensiverly. His site has been hit by DoD and other .mil servers, so one wonders what they're interested in? After perusing, you may revise your opinion of what Ed could and couldn't do. Or not. I'm not selling anything. Submitted in the general spirit of furthering understanding.<br><br>S. [edited to make the URL a live link] <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sussurus2>sussurus2</A> at: 4/7/06 10:01 pm<br></i>

[JD]

The porn sites were too busy. <p></p><i></i>