Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Moderators: Elvis, DrVolin, Jeff

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby ninakat » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:08 pm

psynapz wrote:Anybody know how to find Dutch's latest work?

Edit: never mind, still here: http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/


Here's his Youtube page, which is up to date:

http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse
User avatar
ninakat
 
Posts: 2904
Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:38 pm
Location: "Nothing he's got he really needs."
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby Laodicean » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:59 am

User avatar
Laodicean
 
Posts: 3505
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:39 pm
Blog: View Blog (16)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby eyeno » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:59 pm

Verification in my opinion that Dutch was on to something long ago in regards to the weather. Watch the video if you can. The video is now for some reason marked "private" and I don't have private status. I guess you have to sign up on youtube to see the private? When I saw the video, and I did see it, the vid was not marked private. I have no idea why it is private now but I can vouch for its contents. Probably some place on the web it is archived and can be watched. I looked but could not find it but I bet somebody copied it and plastered it on the web somewhere.

The Stanford papers are archived also. Dutch accurately described what he saw long ago and then lo and behold papers from Stanford were found describing the same wave patterns. Stanford scrubbed their paper from the web but it got archived in the caches of the Wayback machine and Dutch also backed it up himself.

If you are not following Dutch you are missing some fascinating and dangerous science. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that his weather mod ideas are correct.

The jury is still out on the rest of his earthquake and volcano observations (for me anyway) but nothing would surprise me these days considering who the perps are and their motives.



https://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/472012-stanford-vlfhaarp-papers-disappear-from-the-internet/
4/7/2012 — Stanford VLF/HAARP papers disappeared from the internet
Posted on April 7, 2012

UPDATE monday 4.9.2012 — Go figure… about a week after we are vindicated … they pull the documents from the net.. AND zap the archive going back to 2008!

Lucky for us… we backed it all up !

———————————————–

Here is my original video from last week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_X9KlP ... r_embedded



In the Stanford paper .. THEY (the professionals at Stanford / HAARP) call this “geometric modulation”….. specifically, they refer to the types of PULSES emitted and give these pulses NAMES.

The names they use for the ‘shaped pulses’ are : Circle Sweep, Square Wave, and Sawtooth Sweep.

Again for the record, I’ve been calling these RADAR signatures over the past year ‘HAARP rings’ they call them ‘Circle sweeps’…… I’ve been calling them ‘Scalar Squares’ they call them ‘Square Waves’ ……. I’ve been calling them ‘Stairstep Patterns‘ they call them ‘Sawtooth Sweeps’.

Regardless of terminology, the effect we’re describing is the same.. a ‘pulsed pattern’ which heats the area around the pulsing station.

I really can’t figure out WHY they removed all the HAARP stanford VLF documents.. they’ve been up since 2008.

But alas, they are gone this week…. coincidence — right?!

NEW links to the archives are below.

————————————————-

here is the original link: (not working now)

http://www-star.stanford.edu/~vlf/publi ... 008-03.pdf

here is the google cache of that link from Stanford:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... l=en&gl=us

here is the wayback machine archive of the Stanford page:

http://web.archive.org/web/201107191536 ... 008-03.pdf

Below is the same .pdf available for download from my dutchsinse site — download it and share / backup.

http://sincedutch.files.wordpress.com/2 ... 008-03.pdf

Again, for the record, for the skeptics who said I was lying or how did they so bluntly put it.. they falsely accused me of FRAUD!!! Saying I was MAKING THIS ALL UP !

What an EPIC FAIL on their part, and what a difference a year makes!!

Turns out these are what the PROFESSIONALS from Stanford call these same HAARP signatures …. Square Wave, Sawtooth Sweeps, and Circle Sweeps.

If you haven’t put it together yet… Scalar Squares = Square Wave, stairstep pattern = sawtooth sweep, and HAARP ring = Circle Sweep.
To read the terms — look at page 2, section 2, subsection 11:

Image


Image


Image


Image


Image


Image


2nd thing to be vindicated was PREPLANNED EARTHQUAKES / Man made events …. the mexico 7.9 magnitude was indeed pre-planned for over a month before hand…. to the DAY, MINUTE, HOUR, exact COUNTRY, exact magnitude …

Here is the full post PROVING this to be the case: http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2012/03 ... h-20-2012/

And also proved correct on volcanic plumes coming from dormant volcanic spots:

http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2012/03 ... t-volcano/

User avatar
eyeno
 
Posts: 1878
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:22 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby eyeno » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:49 pm

If you look at the pictures in the previous post you can see what "geometric modulation" means.



Geometric Modulation - Increasing the Power of HAARP?
image source
Brandon Turbeville
Activist Post

As tornadoes complete their march through America’s heartland, and earthquakes rattle the planet, questions as to the nature of these events are being raised anew, particularly among those aware of the capabilities of HAARP technology. Indeed, the more one understands about the levels of technological development achieved in the upper reaches of government and elitist corporations, the more one is forced to question what previously could be taken for granted as a natural occurrence.

Nevertheless, the very concept of man-made weather is simply too much for many stuck in mainstream tunnel vision to grasp. Admittedly, those of us not actually involved in the project, as a result of overwhelming secrecy and blatant refusal to divulge any real information on the HAARP system, are left to much speculation.

Some individuals may claim that HAARP is incapable of producing large-scale events. Others, however, find a way to blame virtually every natural disaster on the technology. In the end, the truth likely sits somewhere in between.

Regardless, there are individuals who have done amazing amounts of good research regarding HAARP with very little resources at their disposal. Obviously, these researchers have developed their own terminology and designation for the anomalies surrounding weather and HAARP events.

Specifically, terms like “Scalar Squares,” “HAARP Rings,” and “Stairstep Patterns” have become accepted nomenclature for many who follow the HAARP system and its effects on weather patterns and the environment.


These terms have become highly used in HAARP-related videos on YouTube and, unfortunately, are the subject of much ridicule by those still ignorant of scientific advancements. More often than not, the very concept of using these types of “patterns,” or even the technology itself, is rejected as tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theory.

However, the folks at Sincedutch have produced a paper published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters by researchers working on a grant presented to Stanford University by the Office of Naval Research regarding the efficacy of a new type of ELF/VLF wave generation. This new method of wave generation – using HAARP itself – is called “geometric modulation” due to the use of geometric patterns for wave generation.

As the paper entitled, “Geometric modulation: A more effective method of steerable ELF/VLF wave generation with continuous HF heating of the lower ionosphere,” states, geometric modulation is a “new method of ELF/VLF wave generation, . . . involving the scanning the HF heating beam in a geometric pattern without modulating its power.”

In the second section of the paper designated “Experimental Setup,” the researchers describe the three main types of geometric modulation patterns used which are subsequently labeled:

line-sweep, defined as “where the heating beam scans back and forth along a chosen azimuth, completing a full back and forth scan . . . in one ELF/VLF period;”
sawtooth-sweep, defined as “where the heating beam scans along one chosen azimuth, completing one sweep across the path in one ELF/VLF period and starting back at the initial end;” and
circle-sweep, defined as “where the heated beam follows a circular pattern with some radius. . .”



As Sincedutch points out, these designations closely parallel those being used in the alternative media/research communities. Interestingly enough, the terms provided by the independent researchers were largely gleaned from radar signatures, which might explain why the terms are so similar without one side being privy to the other. The name might be slightly different – i.e. HAARP Rings=Circle Sweep, Scalar Squares=Square Waves, and Stairstep Patterns=Sawtooth Sweeps – but the pattern remains the same.

This demonstrates, among other things, that many independent researchers have been on target for some time, even as the mainstream has attempted to demonize and ridicule them into obscurity.

One other interesting piece of information provided by this paper is the reasoning behind the use of geometric modulation in the first place. According to the researchers,

Furthermore, since amplitudes of ELF/VLF signals generated via modulated HF heating as observed on the ground are roughly proportional to total HF power delivered to the ionosphere [Barr and Stubbe, 1991], with some variations resulting from a saturation mechanism at these power levels [Moore et al., 2006] the 7-11 dB enhancement exceeds the 6dB enhancement that would be expected by simply doubling the power of HAARP.

Translating this information into English simply means that geometric modulation is capable of significantly enhancing the HF power projected into the ionosphere, not merely upping the power of the HAARP station itself.

As the paper states in the “Conclusion,”

Near HAARP, GM is less effective than AM below 2kHz, but more effective above 3 kHz. For long distance observations, GM consistently produces substantially stronger signals than AM for ELF/VLF frequencies above 3 kHZ, by as much as 7-11 dB. In addition, GM can lead to the creation of an unprecedented ELF phased array, capable of directed radiation at different azimuths within the EIW.

Again, this means that geometric modulation, given the right circumstances, can be used to drastically increase the ELF powers of HAARP and such related technology.

The paper cited above was published in 2008. However, projects such as HAARP are not quite as new as many might think. I have said before in many of my articles that if the general public is made aware of any new type of research, then the truth is that the technology they are being introduced to is now obsolete. We can safely assume that HAARP and projects like it are at least 50 years ahead of what many so-called “conspiracy theorists” take them to be, much less the mainstream commentators (where they exist).

After all, keep in mind that the paper cited in this article actually cites a previous study where ELF/VLF wave generation was demonstrated in a HAARP-like experiment of its own . . . That study took place in 1974.

Read other articles by Brandon Turbeville here.

You can help support this information by voting on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm ... _of_haarp/

Brandon Turbeville is an author out of Mullins, South Carolina. He has a Bachelor's Degree from Francis Marion University and is the author of three books, Codex Alimentarius -- The End of Health Freedom, 7 Real Conspiracies, and Five Sense Solutions. Turbeville has published over one hundred articles dealing with a wide variety of subjects including health, economics, government corruption, and civil liberties. Brandon Turbeville is available for podcast, radio, and TV interviews. Please contact us at activistpost (at) gmail.com.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/04/geo ... power.html
User avatar
eyeno
 
Posts: 1878
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:22 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby eyeno » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:59 pm

And of course there is always the Sun (no pun intended) and its effects on the weather. A cool site.


http://solarimg.org/artis/
User avatar
eyeno
 
Posts: 1878
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:22 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby conniption » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Aangirfan

Monday, November 11, 2013
PHILIPPINES TYPHOON CAUSED BY US MILITARY WEAPON - REPORT

Dr Michio Kaku, the Weather Channel and CNN have discussed tropical storms caused by microwave beams (pulses).

Reports have emerged that the typhoon which hit the Philippines was caused by a microwave beam.

The microwave beam was observed in the West Pacific and it appears to have created the typhoon.

Reportedly, a U.S. Airforce base is located near the source of the microwave beam.

The U.S. base is reportedly a satellite communications hub.

After the microwave beam emission, satellite images showed a "heavy rotation" begin to develop, eventually becoming a large tropical storm.

Reports say that weather modifications have been done using a microwave pulse.

Did a Microwave Pulse Cause Typhoon Haiyan? Over 10000 Feared Dead in Philippines (VIDEOS) - International Business Times AU

(cont.)

1 of 10 comments:

A. Peasant said...

Hurricane andrew, similar. 1992.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=78948

US sends 90 marines from okinawa to help filipinos. I wonder how all the US military personnel stationed on the phillipines made out, presumably they are safe and would be closer.....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 584257.cms

11:50 PM


*

"Weather Modification 101" = Dutchsinse video response to Dr. Mahar Lagmay and ABS-CBN News (ANC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogpNcknyGjg

Published on Nov 12, 2013
conniption
 
Posts: 2480
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:01 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:47 am

Glad Dutch is still going! He had a very hairy time for awhile there.
User avatar
Wombaticus Rex
 
Posts: 10896
Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:33 pm
Location: Vermontistan
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby brainpanhandler » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:17 pm

eyeno » Thu May 12, 2011 12:48 pm wrote:I know that this phenomena is real because I personally know very sane people that report these effects. They have tinnitus in their ears. They have been to many doctors but the doctors are clueless. Sometimes it gets so bad they report that their brain feels inflamed. They hear sounds that sound like morse code sometimes. Sometimes it sounds like music, a television, people talking, etc..Sometimes they feel disoriented, weak, sick. When they turn their head one way the sound changes or goes away, and when they turn their head back to its original position the sound resumes.


I was just in southeast MO at a place called Alley Spring. Amazing place. 81 million gallons a day comes out of this spring. We hiked to the top of the bluff above the spring and I had one of the most intense auditory hallucinations (?) I have ever had. It was a very low, deep bass tone. Mostly it was constant, but occasionally it would pulse. I only "heard" it in my left ear. I put heard in quotes because it wasn't so much hearing as feeling. That was one of the really strange things about it. It vibrated my skull with what felt like a resonant frequency. (Do auditory hallucinations do that?) It was very loud. If I turned around it would change, becoming more or less resonant, more or less loud. It made me feel a bit disoriented, but I could attribute that to the strangeness of the experience. When I moved away from the spot it disappeared. When I moved back it resumed. My partner heard nothing.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Martin Luther King Jr.
User avatar
brainpanhandler
 
Posts: 5114
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:38 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:30 pm

The topic of weather modification and HAARP isn't new to me, and I'm more or less a believer, but Dutchsinse is new to me and I wasn't all that impressed with the above video. Apparently I haven't clicked on this thread before, or at least not recently. That video was unnecessarily and unreasonably long, repeated multiple parts, and advised me to watch 10-20 additional hours of video in order to catch up on just this latest typhoon. I found myself yelling at the screen and fast forwarding several times. At best, the presentation is lacking but the concepts worth consideration. At worst, this guy reminds me of Rush Limbaugh telling new listeners they really need to listen for 3 hours a day for a minimum of 6 months before they are well-versed enough to understand the discussion. If someone who knows more about this guy can convince me my first impression is wrong, I'm all ears.
"When I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink!"
User avatar
mentalgongfu2
 
Posts: 1966
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:02 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby Nordic » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:16 am

I think he's a moron who doesn't have a clie about what he's looking at. This is right up there with "orbs" being ghosts when they're provably just dust specks. And look at who his major proponent was here -- Eeyeno (shudder)
"He who wounds the ecosphere literally wounds God" -- Philip K. Dick
Nordic
 
Posts: 14230
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:36 am
Location: California USA
Blog: View Blog (6)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby brainpanhandler » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:53 am

mentalgongfu2 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:30 pm wrote:The topic of weather modification and HAARP isn't new to me, and I'm more or less a believer, but Dutchsinse is new to me and I wasn't all that impressed with the above video. Apparently I haven't clicked on this thread before, or at least not recently. That video was unnecessarily and unreasonably long, repeated multiple parts, and advised me to watch 10-20 additional hours of video in order to catch up on just this latest typhoon. I found myself yelling at the screen and fast forwarding several times. At best, the presentation is lacking but the concepts worth consideration. At worst, this guy reminds me of Rush Limbaugh telling new listeners they really need to listen for 3 hours a day for a minimum of 6 months before they are well-versed enough to understand the discussion. If someone who knows more about this guy can convince me my first impression is wrong, I'm all ears.


Your first impression seems accurate to me. I asked the following on page 9 of this thread and predictably got no response.

brainpanhandler » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:12 pm wrote:
StarmanSkye wrote:Its infuriating when ordinarily intelligent people don't use rigorous thinking to test their assumptions but rush to wonky conclusions that support their emotionalistic biases.

SURE there are all kinds of freaky things going on we don't know much about, but keeping the absurd away from the feasable is a necessary task to keep ourselves reasonably on-track w/ discovering what is real.


From what I can tell looking at the various dutch sinse sites/videos he relies heavily on interpreting anomalous radar artifacts as evidence of HAARP activity. So heavily in fact that if we were to deduct his tea leave reading of radar imagery from his dog and pony show there would be nothing left at all.

I also note that I cannot find any instance of dutch attempting to find a conventional explanation for any of the radar anomalies he uses to make his predictions. He doesn't even try, at least as far as I can tell.

Can any of you dutchsinse followers point me to an instance of when he attempts to explain anomalous radar data with a conventional explanation?

For instance:
As previously mentioned, radar stations transmit energy within the microwave portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, with National Weather Service (NWS) sites currently operating at a wavelength of +/- 10 cm. It turns out that the Sun emits energy across the entire electromagnetic spectrum. At sunrise and sunset when the Sun is near the horizon, radar stations are susceptible to picking up and interpreting the microwave energy as precipitation. The sample image was produced at 5:08pm local time (2208Z) and the spike, aligned along the radial of the beam, is clearly oriented in the direction of the setting Sun in mid-November. It doesn't require an expert in radar interpretation to discern the difference between the anomaly and the widespread precipitation on the image from January 13, 2008.



http://www.lakeeriewx.com/CaseStudies/R ... pikes.html


Dutch just interprets these lines as evidence of HAARP activity as far as I can tell and does not even attempt to find a more conventional explanation.

Can those of you who have read Dutch extensively provide me a link to any instance when Dutch thoroughly and systematically attempts to rule out mundane explanations for radar artifacts?


As far as I'm concerned if the guy can't be bothered to assess more conventional explanations for the centerpiece of his "research" (anomalous radar artifacts) and explain why they are insufficient or at least offer a plausible theory as to why his interpretation is equally valid then I don't see any reason to waste my time looking into it further. Although I don't know that he hasn't. I was just hoping that one of the members here that takes him seriously could point me to where he has. Presumably they too would be interested in knowing that dutch was looking at things from all angles.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Martin Luther King Jr.
User avatar
brainpanhandler
 
Posts: 5114
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:38 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby brainpanhandler » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:45 pm

About the strange tones I heard:

Image
Alley Spring

Image
View of Alley Spring from bluffs above

Image
Another local spring called Round Spring

Image
A cave we found. There had been a rock slide from above which partially blocked the entrance. The spring fed stream had deposited a thick layer of silt and filled the cave. I'd guess the original cave floor was 15' below the current surface.

Southeast MO is full of springs and caves. It's a geologically active and fascinating area. It's why we went there. It's also as close to the New Madrid fault as I've been in awhile.

The pulsed tone was heard on the bluffs overlooking Alley Spring. I've been looking for a conventional explanation. It seems to me that water flowing underground might well generate some interesting hydroacoustic dynamics. I was thinking maybe some sort of semi-audible/felt infrasound of some sort. This article: http://www.wtpoptics.com/Infrasonic.pdf seems to provide some support for that theory. Who knows what I was standing on. We were a couple of hundred feet above the spring at that point.

Another conventional answer might be that some sort of mapping technology that utilizes pulsed vlf waves or EM energy of some sort that could set up a resonance effect in the underground cavities was being used at the time and I just happened to be at the right place at the right time to hear it.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Martin Luther King Jr.
User avatar
brainpanhandler
 
Posts: 5114
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:38 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:31 pm

Is Mysterious Hum Heard Around World Caused By Noisy Fish Sex?
The Huffington Post | By Meredith Bennett-Smith
Posted: 10/29/2013 11:29 am EDT

It's been blamed on everything from high-pressure gas lines to low-frequency earth tremors to submarine communications, but so far researchers have been unable to pinpoint the source of a loud, mysterious humming sound that people around the world have reported hearing.

Now science has an answer. Maybe.

Unofficially known as the Hum, the sound is a droning noise that has been heard from Southampton and Leeds in England to Bondi, Australia, and even Seattle, Wash. While people in a few regions have complained about the intermittent humming for decades, residents in other places have only recently reported hearing it. And for some, the din is unbearable.

LISTEN: The Hum heard in Terrace, British Columbia. (Story continues below.)


"It's a kind of torture; sometimes, you just want to scream," Leeds resident Katie Jacques told the BBC. "It's hard to get off to sleep because I hear this throbbing sound in the background."

The humming has also been driving residents of Southampton batty, prompting scientists there to search for a source, which has led to a new theory involving the male Midshipman fish that lets out a distinctive drone when searching for a mate, The Telegraph reported.

LISTEN: The "humming" sounds of male Midshipmen.


Yet despite widespread media coverage, there is scant evidence to back up the hypothesis. The reports appear to be based on comments made last week by Dr. Ben Wilson, a Scottish Association for Marine Science (SAMS) scientist who said only that it was possible that fish were causing the throbbing sound.

"It's not beyond the realms of possibility," Dr. Wilson said, according to local publication the Daily Echo. "There are certainly 'sonic fish' in the north Atlantic and the approaches to the English Channel."

This theory is not without precedent. Researchers from the University of Washington's Marine Biology program said last year that Midshipmen fish were to blame for Seattle's humming problem. Scientists speculated that the calls of the fish in Washington State could be reverberating off of boat hulls and buildings.

But while researchers in Seattle had studied the possible link between the fish and humming, no such research has yet been conducted in England. A statement released by SAMS on Friday attempted to clarify the quotation:

Ben did suggest to the Daily Echo reporter how he might record the noises (by putting a microphone into a condom, sealing it and dropping into the water), but he hasn’t received an audio file yet. Perhaps someone would like to take up the task. Or perhaps a media organization would fly Ben and his equipment south to listen to the hum in situ. Fish might be then ruled in or out.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
User avatar
seemslikeadream
 
Posts: 32090
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: into the black
Blog: View Blog (83)

Postby Perelandra » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:30 pm

Did ‘microwave pulses’ create Yolanda (Haiyan)?
Published on November 12, 2013

There is a video making the rounds on the Internet about how Super Typhoon Yolanda (Haiyan) was created by “microwave pulses.” Attempts at weather modification – the intentional manipulation of weather disturbances – is not new in human history. Even until now, some people would attest to religious interventions on weather disturbances.

Scientifically, we know the conditions needed for typhoon formation, and by altering any or some of these conditions, it follows that there could be an effect on typhoons.

Some basic science first. Clouds are essentially made up of small liquid water particles. How small? It takes more or less a million cloud water droplets to clump together to form a single raindrop.

Two things needed for clouds to form in the sky: one, rising warm, humid air, and two, the presence of small particles, or aerosols.

The process of warm humid air cooling down up in the sky transforms water from gas to liquid, creating clouds. So why then when you leave your refrigerator open, clouds don’t form? Warm humid air around us is cooled down inside right? Yes, but it’s easier for water to condense if there is a surface to condense on, and that’s why water droplets form all over the walls inside your refrigerator. This is where aerosols come in handy: the particles in the atmosphere act like surfaces where water can cling, and cloud water droplets form more efficiently.

Manipulating weather?

To manipulate weather, in essence we need to manipulate clouds, either by doing something about the warm air, or the particles.

And because it takes a lot of energy to modify temperature, changing particle characteristics in the atmosphere is almost always the method used in weather modification experiments – cloud seeding.

Cloud seeding is the process of putting particles (usually silver iodide) in clouds to modify cloud formation to produce or suppress rain. In relation to typhoon modification, the cloud seeding method has been used in at least two attempts:

Project Cirrus. In 1947, Project Cirrus was the first attempt by the US military to modify a hurricane. Cloud seeding was done by an airplane that flew by the rainbands of a hurricane, and dropped crushed dry ice into the clouds. The hurricane changed its track after the seeding, prompting lawsuit threats from those that were eventually affected. However, a similar hurricane system 40 years prior took almost the same track as that hurricane, plus the fact that the hurricane was already changing its direction when the experiment began, made Project Cirrus inconclusive, it also stopped the litigation.

Project Stormfury. Project Stormfury was a project by the US government that started in 1962 and lasted for 20 years. The project used cloud seeding strategies to modify the inner structure of hurricanes. However, no considerable change was observed in the experiments that were done. Though the project was eventually scrapped, the experiments gave weather scientists a better understanding of the science and dynamics of hurricanes.

There was a also controversial study in 1997 by a Dutch physicists named Henrick Svensmark. He hypothesized that cosmic rays from deep space are affecting cloud formation on Earth, thus affecting Earth’s climate. Although this has nothing to do with “man-made” manipulation, this shows the rigors of having the science community agree with what you say.

In his study, he showed a correlation between observed cosmic rays that reached Earth and cloud cover. The idea is cosmic rays affect the particles needed for cloud formation, in turn affecting the clouds themselves. However, other scientists replicating his work did not find any good correlation.

This violated an important rule in science: reproducibility.

Scientific findings should be repeatable whoever is doing the same experiment. More recent experiment by Svensmark in a controlled laboratory shows more promising results, but seems to be not sufficient to support his claims on the effect of cosmic rays on climate change.

Even with a sound hypothesis, a fairly decent experiment, his study is still not well accepted by scientists.

Now, on to the YouTube video.

There are a lot of studies regarding microwaves and the atmosphere. Microwaves are used to send signals to a region of the atmosphere called the ionosphere. The ionosphere can reflect radio signals – in fact, this reflection can be used to our advantage by bouncing off radio signals to travel further. Hence the importance of studying this region of the sky.

Microwaves are also often used as a tool in observing other parts of the atmosphere. This is because microwaves are able to travel through the atmosphere without much resistance. It can pass though clouds, so it is useful in satellite observations as well. Most of the “facilities” shown in the video are for that purpose.

There are also studies of microwave pulses creating hot gases in laboratory settings. And I assume this is what the guy in the video (YouTube user “dutchsinse”) was referring to. I found no scientific literature on real world atmospheric experiments on this though, and a Google search on microwave pulses creating cyclones will inevitably lead you to his web page.

As I mentioned, manipulation of temperature is energetically very costly however efficient the method is. Even if we are able to change the temperature of certain parts of a cyclone sufficiently, temperature is just one of the many conditions needed for formation and intensification of tropical cyclones. And supposing all conditions are met, it still does not mean that a cyclone will necessarily form.

The video merely showed conjectures, not evidence.

Apophenia is when we see meaningful patterns in random things. Human beings are hardwired to see patterns everywhere, and in the past few centuries we use a tool called science to distinguish the facts from the senseless patterns.

The Philippines is in the path of tropical cyclones forming in the northwest Pacific Ocean. Statistically, the path of Yolanda is “normal” for our northeast monsoon season, and it just so happened that the right conditions were met by Yolanda to intensify to such a monster typhoon.

Moreover, our knowledge of the atmosphere is not that good. In fact a lot of what we know about clouds, about rain, about typhoons, about weather in general are just approximations, estimations of what they really are. This lack of knowledge is one of the major hindrance to a perfect or at least a very accurate weather forecast.

Effects of air pollution

As early as November 2, I already saw weather forecasts from different models showing Yolanda (Haiyan) to be a ferocious typhoon. If this was made by a “microwave pulse,” how come weather models were able to predict it?

In the recent decades, we, human beings, have also been inadvertently modifying our weather and climate system. On top of the list is the continuous emission of greenhouse gases, resulting to warmer surface temperature. Large cities are getting warmer compared to the countryside, since buildings and roads heat up more compared to grass and trees, in a phenomenon called the Urban Heat Island effect.

Air pollution is also affecting our atmosphere in a way that is changing rainfall patterns in most affected places. In Metro Manila, I am doing a study on this and results show that local afternoon rainshowers are now occurring at a later time extending until night time, and thunderstorm clouds are bringing more rain on us because of local air pollution mainly from vehicles.

Although cloud seeding would come close to weather control as there are many claims on its success, scientists are still unable to quantify rainfall produced from cloud seeding. Right now, there are still no methods that can be used effectively for willful control of weather that is accepted by mainstream science.

Gerry Bagtasa, Ph.D. is an atmospheric physicist with the Institute of Environmental Science & Meteorology, University of the Philippines (Diliman). He also runs a weather forecast websitewww.weather-manila.com, a partner of Rappler.com's WeatherAlert.
Link
“The past is never dead. It's not even past.” - William Faulkner
User avatar
Perelandra
 
Posts: 1648
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:12 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:37 pm

To be clear, I think it is a very fair assessment to say that dutchsinse has never met an imaging artifact that didn't prove him right. I also think he's a kind and genuine mammal, rather than a hysterical shit-weasel peddler of horseshit...he's a believer. I'm not. HAARP is fascinating and weather modification is a perfectly mundane reality, but of course his Big Thesis goes considerably further than that.

(Indeed, it is reminiscent of so many true believers that, once their corpus is complete and they have cultivated an audience, it becomes inevitable that every major event gets attributed to his Big Thesis. Paging Loren Coleman! Gotta stay relevant to keep getting those podcast gigs, right?)

And to be clear x2, the "hairy time" I was referring to is a reference to the shooting in St. Louis and the death of his roomates father. Many of Dutchsinse's followers take this as powerful proof that he was on something and was getting silenced, and I'm in no position to say that ain't so. I would only point out that a more plausible explanation would involve his roomate being the nexus for those events, rather than Dutch's youtube videos. Even a cursory reading of the police reports make it pretty clear his roomate was the target.
User avatar
Wombaticus Rex
 
Posts: 10896
Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:33 pm
Location: Vermontistan
Blog: View Blog (0)

PreviousNext

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 176 guests