Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

[Agent Orange Cooper]

What is questionable is whether Broadcastify actually "lost" the feeds due to server overload.
Its a pay site though so I cant check.

http://forums.radioreference.com/broadc ... ssing.html

Yes, we had a database server outage that prevented most, if not all, of our feeds from being archived for a few hours last night.

I'm attempting to see if we can recover those archives for this specific incident.

[MacCruiskeen]

I am not "defending" anyone.
The autopsy reports wont be released until the criminal investigation is done.
The families have already received the reports for their loved ones.
You care so much that I am surprised you don't know this.
You can find the feeds if you really want to.

What is questionable is whether Broadcastify actually "lost" the feeds due to server overload.
Its a pay site though so I cant check.

You are such a shameless liar, Burnt Hill. Stop doing it. I called your bluff about the feeds already. You were lying about that.

And you lied about the autopsies too:

Seven doctors, including Stephany, along with several technicians, worked for two days to perform all 49 and one autopsies. Those autopsy reports will be not be released to families or the public until the FBI investigation is complete.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pul ... story.html

Enough, already.

[Burnt Hill]

Thanks AOC.
Answers that raise more questions!
The thing is, lots of people record their (online)scanners now, so there must be sources besides Broadcastify that have the first 50 minutes.
There are a bunch of snippets at Reddit.
Cant vouch for them though.

[82_28]

One thing. . .

You can't really call someone a liar for speculation and going off what we're all going off of. A liar is someone who when questioned "did you drink all my beer" knowingly having done so responds no, I didn't drink your beer. That's lying.

[Burnt Hill]

Love you too Mac!

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-shooting-injury-update-20160615-story.html
Orlando shooting autopsies complete, more survivors discharged
The Orange County Medical Examiner's Office completed the autopsy of all 49 Pulse nightclub shooting victims on Tuesday afternoon and has released 35 of them to funeral homes, the office said on this morning.
All families have been notified.
The office said it won't be releasing the autopsy results or funeral home information because it's an active criminal investigation.
Meanwhile, 25 survivors remain hospitalized at Orlando Regional Medical Center.

[MacCruiskeen]

One thing. . .

You can't really call someone a liar for speculation and going off what we're all going off of. A liar is someone who when questioned "did you drink all my beer" knowingly having done so responds no, I didn't drink your beer. That's lying.

Read.

Ffs.

[Wombaticus Rex]

The autopsy reports wont be released until the criminal investigation is done.

You are such a shameless liar, Burnt Hill. Stop doing it. I called your bluff about the feeds already. You were lying about that.

And you lied about the autopsies too:

Seven doctors, including Stephany, along with several technicians, worked for two days to perform all 49 and one autopsies. Those autopsy reports will be not be released to families or the public until the FBI investigation is complete.

you lied about the autopsies

The autopsy reports wont be released until the criminal investigation is done.

Those autopsy reports will be not be released to families or the public until the FBI investigation is complete.

....?

[MacCruiskeen]

You're at it again with that selective quoting, Mod.

Burnt Hill » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:55 pm wrote:
I am not "defending" anyone.
The autopsy reports wont be released until the criminal investigation is done.
The families have already received the reports for their loved ones.
You care so much that I am surprised you don't know this.
You can find the feeds if you really want to.

What is questionable is whether Broadcastify actually "lost" the feeds due to server overload.
Its a pay site though so I cant check.

- the second bolded line in 130-point, just for you, WR. (Now cue accusations of me stretching the thread...)

I do not use the word "liar" lightly. In this case it's demonstrably justified - twice. Not least because Burnt Hill went out of his way to patronise me while lying. Twice.

[82_28]

I have been reading, Mac. You just can't call someone a "liar" for shit they don't know about. Feel free to do so, that's up to you. Say I said like you, nobody really knows what happened and Orlando was all crisis actors. While stupid, coming from someone who was not there how am I to know? It would hardly make me a liar. Here's a good lie:

I totally know what ffs means. That's a lie. Because I don't know what that means. See it all the time but have been uninterested to look up the meaning -- which is the truth.

[norton ash]

It means 'for fuck's sake' , 82. Which is my ongoing response to this thread. I'll keep reading, though.

[MacCruiskeen]

You just can't call someone a "liar" for shit they don't know about.

That. Is Not. What. I. Called. Him. A. Liar. For.

I called him a liar for lying, i.e., for claiming to know two (2) true facts that are in fact neither true nor facts, and for patronising me while doing so.

But what the hell. Anything goes, apparently. So: Scarlett Johansen was the killer, her voice is unmistakable. 1) You can find the live police feeds if you really want to. 2) The families have been given them already.

HTH.

[Iamwhomiam]

Such BS. He has no idea at all when people died. Long before the SWAT team entered we heard many gunshots and he contradicts the testimony of wounded survivors, who claimed friends had already died.

Yeah, that liar must have lied! I mean, he contradicted those other liars who were definitely telling the truth!

You're trying to reason honestly with a lawyer who thinks that everything was hunky-dory legal-wise about the treatment of Syed Farook and his tiny wife Tashfeen Malik in San Bernardino, who believes that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got a fair trial, and who doesn't care what's happened to Noor Zahi Salman Mateen, now that she has vanished after having had her name blackened by his Authorities via the corporate media. So, good luck with that.

Just catching up on this thread when I came across this.

Mac, you have no idea what I think about anything or anyone, but I grant you have a fascinating imagination. Wherever you got the idea that I'm a lawyer is beyond me, someone who barely made it out of high school.

You insult me endlessly, but to what purpose? I find your false claims about me merely annoying. You claim I'm dishonest, though I am not at all. My character and integrity is unimpeachable, as any who actually know me would tell you.

We disagree about what occurred at the Pulse nightclub, big deal. That you were too lazy to use a search engine I also found annoying, but only because you demanded others do this for you. (Witness id of perp)

So, Mac, who's being dishonest? You've lied about me and have tried your best to disparage the character of any who disagrees with you - about anything - on any subject under discussion.

Your ego is overwhelming! Annoyed with the thread's progress, you begin another. And yet another after that!

You have kindness in your soul; this I know. Your pm to me about my shredding of Krysos was welcomed and appreciated. I did as you asked and re-read what I had written, as it was cruel and I deleted it. I thanked you for pointing out to me my unnecessary cruelty. You need such a friend now.

Your comment to stickdog is merely another insult to me. It deals not with the substance of what I commented on or my comment itself.

Your act here is getting old, Mac.

[82_28]

Who am I to say, but I feel not just here but everywhere, absolute certainty needs to be dumped. It's just a RI conversation among people about a horrific event (events if you count each and every life lost as events within themselves).

Oh and thanks, Norton for the definition of ffs. Now I have to ask what "HTH" means.

[Burnt Hill]

Various feeds from that night in Orlando here-
https://m.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4npcdb/reports_of_nightclub_shooting_in_united_states/

[stickdog99]

Various feeds from that night in Orlando here-
https://m.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4npcdb/reports_of_nightclub_shooting_in_united_states/

Those are all live feeds, meaning that listening to them now only tells us what is going on in Orlando right now.

Furthermore, none of the descriptions of the feed predate 5:00 AM Orlando time on the day of the shooting.

The 12:00 AM to 3:00 AM feed archives from the day of the shooting are still missing.