‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby divideandconquer » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:53 pm

Well considering that this portal-opening CERN recently released a bunch of demons and then had/has everyone going around collecting them through this demon catcher they designed that's disguised as a game (Pokemon Go) satanic rituals and human sacrifice are probably a fairly routine part of any day, don't you think? I mean what kind of place uses the public to capture their creatures and clean up their mess? These poor unwitting fools running around chasing after demons disguised as little cartoons don't have a clue what they're in for after these things are activated and unleashed to do God knows what...When did life become a horror movie?

Watch this video and see for yourself.

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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby guruilla » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:41 pm

divideandconquer wrote:Watch this video and see for yourself.

:popcorn:
It is a lot easier to fool people than show them how they have been fooled.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Grizzly » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:29 am

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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby SonicG » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:16 am

The video ends with a shot of the collider yet it is apparently being shot from a few stories up? I mean the collider is basically underground, no?
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby guruilla » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:06 am

It didn't look like the actual collider to me, never mind the absurdity of that; maybe a poster on a wall?
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby guruilla » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:31 am

It is a lot easier to fool people than show them how they have been fooled.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:54 pm

Harvey » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:12 pm wrote:At least two guys are filming an empty courtyard at the LHC during the night, from inside the facility.


Why do you say "at least two"?

The filming remains steady while a bunch of peers, all fairly young judging by the footwear and legs, appear from the outer courtyard wearing bedsheets.


C'mon, Harvey. That's just weak snark, worthy of VICE. Whatever they're wearing, it ain't no bedsheets.

The camera begins to zoom before the main action begins, as if scripted.


Again you mischaracterise it. The people appear in procession and then position themselves on three sides of a square facing onto the statue. That he zooms in there is completely natural. (What would you have done?) There is absolutely no need for him to be following a script. Whatever's about to happen is clearly going to happen right there. What else should the cameraman take an interest in? It would be unnatural not to zoom in precisely there and then.

The final shot after the moment of panic is of the collider itself, is that plausible considering the location of the filming? Should be easy to check.


Please. It is easy to check. The LHC itself is deep underground, of course:

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But this is the mural inside Building 40, from where the video was shot:

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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby brainpanhandler » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:13 pm

guruilla » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:57 pm wrote:Meanwhile, for those of us not inclined to signal back "no-threat to power" with mimetic smirks & chuckles, the correlations between the scientific goal of the Hadron collider & the spiritual one of ritual sacrifice is probably worth unpacking a bit..?


Curious to hear more on this.

Purpose
Physicists hope that the LHC will help answer some of the fundamental open questions in physics, concerning the basic laws governing the interactions and forces among the elementary objects, the deep structure of space and time, and in particular the interrelation between quantum mechanics and general relativity, where current theories and knowledge are unclear or break down altogether. Data is also needed from high-energy particle experiments to suggest which versions of current scientific models are more likely to be correct – in particular to choose between the Standard Model and Higgsless models and to validate their predictions and allow further theoretical development. Many theorists expect new physics beyond the Standard Model to emerge at the TeV energy level, as the Standard Model appears to be unsatisfactory. Issues possibly to be explored by LHC collisions include:[16][17]
• Are the masses of elementary particles actually generated by the Higgs mechanism via electroweak symmetry breaking?[18] It was expected that the collider experiments will either demonstrate or rule out the existence of the elusive Higgs boson, thereby allowing physicists to consider whether the Standard Model or its Higgsless alternatives are more likely to be correct.[19][20][21] The experiments found a particle that appears to be the Higgs boson, strong evidence that the Standard Model has the correct mechanism of giving mass to the elementary particles.
• Is supersymmetry, an extension of the Standard Model and Poincaré symmetry, realized in nature, implying that all known particles have supersymmetric partners?[22][23][24]
• Are there extra dimensions,[25] as predicted by various models based on string theory, and can we detect them?[26]
• What is the nature of the dark matter that appears to account for 27% of the mass-energy of the universe?
Other open questions that may be explored using high-energy particle collisions:
• It is already known that electromagnetism and the weak nuclear force are different manifestations of a single force called the electroweak force. The LHC may clarify whether the electroweak force and the strong nuclear force are similarly just different manifestations of one universal unified force, as predicted by various Grand Unification Theories.
• Why is the fourth fundamental force (gravity) so many orders of magnitude weaker than the other three fundamental forces? See also Hierarchy problem.
• Are there additional sources of quark flavour mixing, beyond those already present within the Standard Model?
• Why are there apparent violations of the symmetry between matter and antimatter? See also CP violation.
• What are the nature and properties of quark–gluon plasma, thought to have existed in the early universe and in certain compact and strange astronomical objects today? This will be investigated by heavy ion collisions, mainly in ALICE, but also in CMS, ATLAS and LHCb. First observed in 2010, findings published in 2012 confirmed the phenomenon of jet quenching in heavy-ion collisions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Had ... er#Purpose

And what is the spiritual purpose of sacrifice? The Indian Sub-continent section is intriguing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice

As always, Wikipedia is a starting point, not an arbiter of all that is right and true. I just needed somewhere to start thinking about your intriguing question.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:45 pm

Cordelia » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:05 am wrote:Any Geneva newspaper reports in August of 'ex-beauty queen's overdose death', à la 'Eyes Wide Shut'?

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Ha. But yes, it does looks as though the participants had seen Kubrick's film.

And to those who are saying, of the CERN film: "It looks so ridiculous!" Well, of course it does. Looking Ridiculous (to the average rationalist Guardian-reading liberal bourgeois) is an inevitable part of such an undertaking. How can you dress up in long cloaks and hoods (especially in the dead of night and in front of a Shiva statue) and not look ridiculous (to the average rationalist Guardian-reading liberal bourgeois)? You can't. It's an impossibility. You are going to provoke yelps and sniggers and eye-rolls and snark, unavoidably.

But the argument appears to be that Looking Ridiculous means you cannot have commited a murder. I'm struggling to follow the logic here. Maybe someone can take me by the hand and lead me through the premises to the conclusion.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Burnt Hill » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:17 pm

A little suspicious/very convenient that the cameraman is in perfect position to see the blade and the thrust,
but not in view of the woman's neck or head where the blade would have entered.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:55 pm

And what is the spiritual purpose of sacrifice? The Indian Sub-continent section is intriguing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice

As always, Wikipedia is a starting point, not an arbiter of all that is right and true. I just needed somewhere to start thinking about your intriguing question.


The wiki omits a sometimes goal of human sacrifice that is the harvesting or transfer of energy or life force by ritual murder or, on a broader scale, by the casualties of war.

The concept of energy resonates with the purposes of the Hadron collider.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby brainpanhandler » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:13 pm

MacCruiskeen » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:26 pm wrote:The guy's response actually sounded very real to me. If you saw a kitschy pantomime suddenly culminate in a brutal stabbing (real or simulated), wouldn't you react similarly?


I have to admit I agree with this. I don't think the guy taking the video knew what he was going to be recording. But I believe he was told there would be something worth recording at x place and y time.

If I wanted to create a fake video with as much realism as possible, then keeping the person recording the video ignorant of the shocking nature of what they will be recording will, in the absence of a decent actor, give me the most realistic, natural response. That response is what gives me a shot of adrenaline.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby Burnt Hill » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:42 pm

On closer inspection and magnified you can actually see that the knife never enters her body.
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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:04 pm

Burnt Hill » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:42 pm wrote:On closer inspection and magnified you can actually see that the knife never enters her body.


Bullshit (yet again, from you). Or else post the evidence.

I am sick and tired of the way you deface every thread with your bullshit claims to special insider knowledge, always backed up by precisely nothing, and always in defence of whatever The Authoritay is telling you to believe.

Burnt Hill » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:14 pm wrote:Looks fake to me. That's not how you sacrifice someone.


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Re: ‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:15 pm

brainpanhandler » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:13 pm wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:26 pm wrote:The guy's response actually sounded very real to me. If you saw a kitschy pantomime suddenly culminate in a brutal stabbing (real or simulated), wouldn't you react similarly?


I have to admit I agree with this. I don't think the guy taking the video knew what he was going to be recording. But I believe he was told there would be something worth recording at x place and y time.

If I wanted to create a fake video with as much realism as possible, then keeping the person recording the video ignorant of the shocking nature of what they will be recording will, in the absence of a decent actor, give me the most realistic, natural response. That response is what gives me a shot of adrenaline.


I've spent decades working in theatres and I've seen and heard many actors, good and bad, old and young. Either that cameraman is a very practiced and accomplished young actor (but in that case why's he studying at CERN?), or else he is genuinely shocked. His trembling is audible in his very breathing.

I don't think the guy taking the video knew what he was going to be recording. But I believe he was told there would be something worth recording at x place and y time.


That's how I see it too.

MacCruiskeen » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:26 pm wrote:
Hypothesis: The cameraman thought he was going to be filming something else, say a sex-act or an actual orgy. Hence his snickering when the procession starts. Hence the bare-ankled participants (naked or lightly-clad under their cloaks). Then the knife appears: "What the fuck?" Then his panic when he sees the knife actually used.

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