‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

[Burnt Hill]

A single stab to the windpipe would most likely not kill someone.

Exploring ritual sacrifice and CERN is interesting.
Twisting logic into pretzels to validate a hoax video is fools play.

[JackRiddler]

By all means, explore the possibilities. This show (or murder, if you think so) really happened at that location, that much is confirmed. Sure, I'm skeptical even about ritual sacrifice as anything in most cases other than a way of frat bonding, albeit of a sick kind, but considered normal. At the end of Karneval they burn an effigy in human form, during Easter in a lot of countries like Greece they burn a Judas. I don't find those very appealing, but they aren't real lynchings. I could be wrong but find it likeliest that this thread and other responses are the payoff the players (if they were not killers) had in mind, but they didn't think through the ramifications. CERN's responses fit with a standard PR approach; they know exactly who and why and don't want to say because a bunch of I would bet employees' or resident grad students' careers would end up endangered.

[guruilla]

Posting without comment:

A dark and ominous rumor circulating in the conspiracy theory blogosphere claims that despite efforts by the Illuminati-controlled CERN authorities to deceive the public by claiming that recent sinister footage showing a human sacrifice ritual ceremony on CERN grounds was fake, evidence has emerged that the sacrificial ritual was real.

According to the bizarre rumor, the victim of the sacrificial ritual was a young Swiss woman who was declared missing and later dead by U.S. police authorities.

New details about the alleged sinister Satanic human sacrifice ritual ceremony, that reportedly occurred last month on CERN grounds in Geneva, originated from a notorious source of dark online conspiracy theories, What Does It Mean.

The conspiracy theory website claims that an intelligence report compiled for Kremlin officials by the Russian Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) and the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) reveals that “satanic ritual sacrifice” of a 29-year-old Swiss woman actually occurred on secure CERN grounds, in front of the statue of Shiva, the ancient Hindu god of death and destruction.

The alleged sacrificial ritual ceremony occurred last month, but footage of the sinister incident emerged online for the first time on August 11, 2016 (see video above), the report claims.

According to the alleged Russian intelligence report, a U.S. Air Force officer, whose intercepted electronic email communications helped Russian intelligence officials to uncover the identity of the alleged sacrificial victim, has come under “‘withering/ferocious’ attack by the Obama regime.”

GRU specialists allegedly stumbled upon information that helped them identify the sacrificial victim while they were working with the 310th Space Wing of the U.S. Air Force, as part of efforts under the Jordan-based combined Russian Federation–U.S. Joint Implementation Group (JIG) to coordinate U.S.-Russian aerial operations against ISIS.

As Russian military and intelligence officials worked to integrate their satellite systems with U.S. systems, they accidentally captured communication from the Reserve National Security Space Institute (HQ-RNSSI), an arm of the 310th Space Wing, at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado.

According to the report, GRU operatives were able to capture a series of electronic communications from U.S. Air Force Major Steve Lewis. The emails contained information about the recent flight itinerary of a U.S. Air Mobility Command (AMC) C-40 Clipper aircraft.

The aircraft had flown on June 18 from Joint Base Andrews in Maryland to Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington State. It returned to Joint Base Andrews on June 19, from where it flew on June 30 to the Geneva Airport in Switzerland, and finally back to the Joint Base Lewis-McChord on July 4.

A brief investigation to determine why the U.S. officer was tracking the flight of the aircraft uncovered unexpected information that a “uniformed” woman on the aircraft’s June 30 flight to Geneva was missing on the return flight to Joint Base Lewis-McChord on July 4, according to the alleged Kremlin report.

The interest of the Russians was further aroused when they discovered that they were unable to identify the “uniformed” woman on official Russian database of U.S. air force personnel. This prompted questions about who the woman was and why she was missing on the return flight to the Joint Base Lewis-McChord on July 4.

The Russians then conducted an “enhanced computer search” to ascertain the identity of the mystery woman.

According to the alleged Kremlin report, the Russians were shocked to discover that the woman was, in fact, a Swiss citizen, 29-year-old named Maja Franziska Brandli, who had been declared missing by the U.S. police on June 19, according to a report by the SeaTac Blog.

According to the SeaTac Blog, the young woman disappeared while “hanging out in downtown Seattle, and may have attempted to stay at a shelter or tent city.”
She was reported dead by U.S. police authorities on July 5. The police authorities gave no information about the circumstances of her death.

After using advanced software to compare Ms. Brandli’s physical features with the “pictorial elements” of the woman in the CERN human sacrifice video, Russian intelligence officials reportedly said they were 87 percent certain that Brandli was the sacrificial victim in the satanic ritual video.

“Pictoral elements” allegedly used to identify the woman in the video included height, estimated against the Shiva statue at about 5 feet 8 inches, and body weight, estimated at about 136 pounds. They also used enhanced digital analysis to search for visible scars, tattoos, and other defects.

Russian officials, according to the Kremlin report, shared their findings with their American counterparts, but the Americans reacted by blocking all Russian access to their systems.

Fox News reported on August 17 that the U.S. Air Force officer Major Steve Lewis, came under attack from the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF). MRFF called for the authorities to fire Major Lewis for keeping a Bible on his work desk. However, the real reason why the authorities wanted to fire Major Lewis was his role in uncovering the identity of the CERN sacrifice victim.
The Russian intelligence report also claimed that the liberal MRFF is in cahoots with the “Obama regime.”

The alleged Kremlin report concluded with a statement that the Russian intelligence services had been aware of satanic activities at CERN since 2009. According to the alleged report, concerns about alleged satanic activity at CERN were intensified when a director of the organization claimed that scientists were working to open a portal to another dimension.

The Register reported that CERN director said scientists hoped that “out of this door [the dimensional portal] might come something, or we might send something through it.”

The alleged Kremlin report concluded bizarrely that the director’s hope was apparently fulfilled on June 24 when a mysterious electrical cloud formed over CERN and the statue of Shiva.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3436677/cern-l ... HFX6tCI.99

See also: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2095.htm

[SonicG]

“out of this door [the dimensional portal] might come something, or we might send something through it.”

So it isn't viral marketing for the next season of Stranger Things?
Justice for Barb
http://deadline.com/2016/08/stranger-th ... 201806549/

[Neither]

Crowley on human sacrifice:

“It would be unwise to condemn as irrational the practice of those savages who tear the heart and liver from an adversary, and devour them while yet warm. In any case it was the theory of the ancient Magicians, that any living being is a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the size and health of the animal, and in quality according to its mental and moral character. At the death of the animal this energy is liberated suddenly. [F]or nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best.”

Jeffrey Kripal's "The traumatic secret":
[/quote]

This is another crowley's pranks, right? The quote isn't complete. Anyways it goes on explaining how the yonger the sacrifice is the better it is i. e. human semen.

[Burnt Hill]

And when a Sorcha Faal article is used to validate a hoax video the logic pretzel breaks in the dip.

[Cordelia]

July 1 SeaTac Blog fwiw referenced in article submitted by guruilla........

The King County Sheriff’s Office wants everyone to be on the lookout for Maja Franziska Brandli, 29, last seen on June 19 at Sea-Tac Airport.



Maja (pronounced ‘Maya‘) – who is from Switzerland – is a white female who stands 5’8” tall, weighs 138 pounds, with blonde hair and blue eyes. She has no known marks, scars or tattoos.

Her family says she has been hanging out in downtown Seattle, and may attempt to stay at a shelter or tent city.

If you have contact with Maja Brandli or have information in this case, please call Jan Gregory 206-263-2068 or Communications at 206-263-3311.

Maja Franziska Brandli
29 years old
White female, 5’8” 136 lbs, blonde hair, blue eyes
No known marks, scars, tattoos
ID from Switzerland
Aka/first name ”Maya,” as she pronounces “j” as “y”
Translation can change her last name to “Braendli”
Unknown clothing
Swiss accent

http://seatacblog.com/2016/07/01/police ... in-seatac/

because who was/is the victim/participant? Who is/was the (American) filmmaker?

[Novem5er]

If a person was stabbed in the neck and then dropped to the ground, would there be a growing pool of blood?

...

Are there probably video surveillance on the CERN campus that could clear up any questions about who arrived and who left the scene (or carried a body off)?

1. She was already lying flat on the ground when stabbed (or "stabbed"). You saw this in the video, if you watched it at all.

2. Yes, there are 300 surveillance cameras in the CERN complex, administered by a surveillance centre.

Both these points were answered already. How can any discussion take place when people feel compelled to post but don't even bother to read the thread? (It's only five pages long.) Or even watch the video.

I watched the video a few times a couple days ago, but I didn't remember every detail. It didn't strike me as anything particularly memorable. I'll say the same thing about your generally alarmist posts and other posters counter-posts, which you usually respond to with some form of antagonism. I tend to skim all that, having read it all before in a few other threads . . .

As a proud member of the "New RI" (your term, not mine) I do love how we can take a minute-long video and, absent any other evidence, construct a really interesting narrative filled with cover-ups and conspiracies. And I do mean, interesting, in that novel sense of entertainment.

[MayDay]

This "new RI" is lazy, boring, and hysterical.

[divideandconquer]

Posting without comment:

A dark and ominous rumor circulating in the conspiracy theory blogosphere claims that despite efforts by the Illuminati-controlled CERN authorities to deceive the public by claiming that recent sinister footage showing a human sacrifice ritual ceremony on CERN grounds was fake, evidence has emerged that the sacrificial ritual was real.

According to the bizarre rumor, the victim of the sacrificial ritual was a young Swiss woman who was declared missing and later dead by U.S. police authorities.

New details about the alleged sinister Satanic human sacrifice ritual ceremony, that reportedly occurred last month on CERN grounds in Geneva, originated from a notorious source of dark online conspiracy theories, What Does It Mean.

The conspiracy theory website claims that an intelligence report compiled for Kremlin officials by the Russian Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) and the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) reveals that “satanic ritual sacrifice” of a 29-year-old Swiss woman actually occurred on secure CERN grounds, in front of the statue of Shiva, the ancient Hindu god of death and destruction.

The alleged sacrificial ritual ceremony occurred last month, but footage of the sinister incident emerged online for the first time on August 11, 2016 (see video above), the report claims.

According to the alleged Russian intelligence report, a U.S. Air Force officer, whose intercepted electronic email communications helped Russian intelligence officials to uncover the identity of the alleged sacrificial victim, has come under “‘withering/ferocious’ attack by the Obama regime.”

GRU specialists allegedly stumbled upon information that helped them identify the sacrificial victim while they were working with the 310th Space Wing of the U.S. Air Force, as part of efforts under the Jordan-based combined Russian Federation–U.S. Joint Implementation Group (JIG) to coordinate U.S.-Russian aerial operations against ISIS.

As Russian military and intelligence officials worked to integrate their satellite systems with U.S. systems, they accidentally captured communication from the Reserve National Security Space Institute (HQ-RNSSI), an arm of the 310th Space Wing, at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado.

According to the report, GRU operatives were able to capture a series of electronic communications from U.S. Air Force Major Steve Lewis. The emails contained information about the recent flight itinerary of a U.S. Air Mobility Command (AMC) C-40 Clipper aircraft.

The aircraft had flown on June 18 from Joint Base Andrews in Maryland to Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington State. It returned to Joint Base Andrews on June 19, from where it flew on June 30 to the Geneva Airport in Switzerland, and finally back to the Joint Base Lewis-McChord on July 4.

A brief investigation to determine why the U.S. officer was tracking the flight of the aircraft uncovered unexpected information that a “uniformed” woman on the aircraft’s June 30 flight to Geneva was missing on the return flight to Joint Base Lewis-McChord on July 4, according to the alleged Kremlin report.

The interest of the Russians was further aroused when they discovered that they were unable to identify the “uniformed” woman on official Russian database of U.S. air force personnel. This prompted questions about who the woman was and why she was missing on the return flight to the Joint Base Lewis-McChord on July 4.

The Russians then conducted an “enhanced computer search” to ascertain the identity of the mystery woman.

According to the alleged Kremlin report, the Russians were shocked to discover that the woman was, in fact, a Swiss citizen, 29-year-old named Maja Franziska Brandli, who had been declared missing by the U.S. police on June 19, according to a report by the SeaTac Blog.

According to the SeaTac Blog, the young woman disappeared while “hanging out in downtown Seattle, and may have attempted to stay at a shelter or tent city.”
She was reported dead by U.S. police authorities on July 5. The police authorities gave no information about the circumstances of her death.

After using advanced software to compare Ms. Brandli’s physical features with the “pictorial elements” of the woman in the CERN human sacrifice video, Russian intelligence officials reportedly said they were 87 percent certain that Brandli was the sacrificial victim in the satanic ritual video.

“Pictoral elements” allegedly used to identify the woman in the video included height, estimated against the Shiva statue at about 5 feet 8 inches, and body weight, estimated at about 136 pounds. They also used enhanced digital analysis to search for visible scars, tattoos, and other defects.

Russian officials, according to the Kremlin report, shared their findings with their American counterparts, but the Americans reacted by blocking all Russian access to their systems.

Fox News reported on August 17 that the U.S. Air Force officer Major Steve Lewis, came under attack from the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF). MRFF called for the authorities to fire Major Lewis for keeping a Bible on his work desk. However, the real reason why the authorities wanted to fire Major Lewis was his role in uncovering the identity of the CERN sacrifice victim.
The Russian intelligence report also claimed that the liberal MRFF is in cahoots with the “Obama regime.”

The alleged Kremlin report concluded with a statement that the Russian intelligence services had been aware of satanic activities at CERN since 2009. According to the alleged report, concerns about alleged satanic activity at CERN were intensified when a director of the organization claimed that scientists were working to open a portal to another dimension.

The Register reported that CERN director said scientists hoped that “out of this door [the dimensional portal] might come something, or we might send something through it.”

The alleged Kremlin report concluded bizarrely that the director’s hope was apparently fulfilled on June 24 when a mysterious electrical cloud formed over CERN and the statue of Shiva.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3436677/cern-l ... HFX6tCI.99

See also: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2095.htm

Even more reason to believe it may have been a real human sacrifice staged as a hoax by so-called student pranksters. We don't know who was underneath those cloaks, but they could easily make themselves appear as students, and make a murder appear as if it were fake while simultaneously throwing it in our faces.

In the background, a man recording the mysterious ritual - who also appears to be wearing acloak - can be heard swearing loudly as he watches the horrifying scene.

CERN, with the full support of all worldly powers, has all but declared that they are more than merely a tool for scientific discovery. Yet so many continue to ignore the occult symbols, rituals, and everything else that points to its less than scientific reasons for existence. However, having said that, most of the population doesn't know much at all about CERN, if they even know it exists.

However, you must admit that the powers that be are more brazen than ever before when it comes to what many call Luciferian or Satanic messages in television shows, movies, sporting events, political events, video games, and more. In other words, the stuff that everyone watches. Even if you do not believe in Satan or the supernatural, the people who produce our media certainly do, or are following the orders of people who have a reason for incorporating it into everything we look at. Yet, we're not supposed to notice, or ask, why. To do so is to insane, subversive, the act of a terrorist. How did we get to the point where we overlook or deny what's right in front of our faces?

So, it's hard for me to believe that there is not an agenda to mentally program and condition adults and children alike with these occult messages, signs and symbols. Whether or not that human sacrifice was real, I believe it's a powerful message of some sort.

[brainpanhandler]

One of the things I look at is how, from a secular late modern perspective, it is impossible, not only to believe in the supernatural but in supposedly “atavistic” beliefs and behaviors that are associated with the supernatural, such as ritual sacrifice. The only way it/we can think about these things is in terms of fictional narratives. So when we encounter them, our brains automatically file them in the fiction category. Something of the sort, I think, is in evidence around this current stunt ~ even if it actually is purely fictional ~ and is partly what Mac is railing against.

The bolded part brings to mind WR's comment from the After School Satan thread:

My question to you is this: do you believe there is actual danger to drawing an inverted pentragram? Or maybe listening to a rock song where the Devil is cast in a positive light?

Depending on where, when and with what. On your cool denim jacket, probably not an issue. In the margins of a Mead notebook, a passing trifle.

In animal blood on a floor, now we're talking dangerously stupid.

Fortunately, the IP isn't even particularly powerful, esp compared to actual Enochian sigils.

Unfortunately, as the Simon Necronomicon has demonstrated, fakes are real out here in an entangled universe.

While my day to day perceptions and attitudes are still generally locked in "a secular late modern perspective", I have had enough experiences in my life that punctured that veil that I find I have a doorway into an undefined, liminal space that is uncomfortably bewildering. I suppose door is not really the right metaphor, more like a membrane that has become so permeable for me I sometimes don't notice when I have passed from one space to another until secular reality calls and or some other reality repulses me with the fear of it. My early experiences with psychedelics certainly ripped open my secular bubble of comfortable conformity. I bounce around in the middle, irresistibly attracted to what I don't know and cannot imagine and also terribly frightened by it, terrified really. I've been to that precipice. Even when it was a beautiful experience beyond words, there was terror underneath, because, "this cannot be explained". Maybe Awe captures that feeling.

So when we encounter them, our brains automatically file them in the fiction category.

I can understand and objectively observe this behavior in me. However, I think this phenomena, which is a natural, selected for, neurological process is more applicable with discrete perceptions, as opposed to larger events like a ritual sacrifice, until one gets to the moment of the stabbing, which I agree, we never really see in the video. I had wondered on first viewing if I had blocked it out, but that event is not recorded on the video. However, the person recording the ritual sees it or believes they see it. Their terror is real. The way the camera jerks away from the scene at the last millisecond before the actual act and then more slowly pans back as though to confirm what was just witnessed is a perfect representation of a mind struggling with a reality (or perceived reality) that makes apparent something that was only thought of in nightmares. It is a recognition of what is deeply suppressed but was always somehow known. However, take away the trappings of the ritual, and I think most people would respond in the same fashion to witnessing a murder. I think that the visceral terror in witnessing such an act derives as much from imagining ourselves in the place of the victim as it does from imagining ourselves as the murderer.

[mentalgongfu2]

Ritual human sacrifice is not entirely a rare event in the United States, though the ceremony takes place with different scenery and costumes. It is not currently en vogue but anecdotal evidence supports a resurgence in popular support.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/execution-list-2016

Execution List 2016
DATE NUMBER
SINCE 1976 STATE NAME AGE RACE VICTIM RACE METHOD DRUG PROTOCOL YEARS FROM SENTENCE TO EXECUTION

1/7/16 1423 FL Oscar Ray Bolin Jr. 53 White 1 White Lethal Injection 3-drug (midazolam) 23
1/20/16 1424 TX Richard Masterson 43 White 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 13
1/21/16 1425 AL Christopher Brooks 43 White 1 White Lethal Injection 3-drug (midazolam) 22
1/27/16 1426 TX James Freeman 35 White 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 7
2/3/16 1427 GA Brandon Jones 72 Black 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 36
2/16/16 1428 TX Gustavo Garcia 43 Latino 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 24
2/17/16 1429 GA Travis Hittson 45 White 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 22
3/9/16 1430 TX Coy Wesbrook 58 White 1 White, 1 Latino Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 17
3/22/16 1431 TX Adam Ward 33 White 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 8
3/31/16 1432 GA Joshua Bishop 41 White 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 20
4/6/16 1433 TX Pablo Vasquez 38 Latino 1 Latino Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 17
4/12/16 1434 GA Kenneth Fults 47 Black 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 18
4/27/16 1435 GA Daniel Lucas 37 White 3 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 16
5/11/16 1436 MO Earl Forrest 66 White 3 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 11
7/15/16 1437 GA John Conner 60 White 1 White Lethal Injection 1-drug (Pentobarbital) 34

[MacCruiskeen]

It seems as though much of the argumentation around the video comes down to whether or not it's worth discussing, at all, which rests on the presumption that it is only worth discussing if the enactment is real, or at least might be real. But clearly it might be real, even if, equally clearly, it raises a ton of perhaps unanswerable questions and seeming anomalies, even absurdities, if we say it is real. I'm not sure myself, but it seems what Mac is trying to get to is the context for the enactment and the context for people's responses to it, here & elsewhere. I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong, Mac) he's trying to argue that it is a real murder, only that it is rash to dismiss it as a prank without examining, not just the evidence of the video and the news stories around it, but the social, psychological context in which all this media is emerging.

Yes, exactly. I find it fascinating, and very striking indeed, that when the film finally "emerged" into the corporate media (after a week floating around on the net), the story was already fully-formed and delivered not just forcefully but unanimously: "THIS WAS A HOAX, A PRANK, A FAKE." That was the officially-approved version, already set in stone as soon as it was delivered. And made undeniable on pain of being subjected to that fearful social sanction, the disgrace of being called an Adulterer a Conspiracy Theorist.



Compare and contrast the reporting of the CERN incident with the reporting of Jihadi John's awful beheadings:







Who could possibly imagine that that might possibly have been a "hoax", a "fake" or even a "prank"? Only a Conspiracy Theorist, only an irredeemable Tinfoil-Hatter. (Ask the corporate media.)

What I'm doing here is just very basic media analysis, and The New RIers are not pleased to see it at all. 'LOL, tinfoil-hattery is tinfoil-hattery, and that's that.' Everything is as clear as day (except when it suits us to say that We Can Never Know Anything At All), and all of it happens in the context of no-context.

A miniature sample of that psycho-social context is right here & now, at this thread, with the combined experience and knowledge (& beliefs, assumptions, & prejudices) of the people participating.

Yes. The New RI is often indistinguishable from the comments threads at HuffPo, VICE or The Guardian. QED. (So is nearly everywhere else now, of course. That was what made RI so valuable and still makes it worth fighting for.)

No, this video is a work of fiction showing a contrived scene. CERN and its on-site accommodation fills up with scientists from across the world coming to CERN as part of their work. Work at CERN can take place 24 hours a day, 365 days a year with shift work and data analysis. Persons that are authorised to access the CERN site sometimes let their sense of humour go too far, and that is what has happened on this occasion. The video was filmed from an office building; strict safety systems are in place to prevent any unauthorised access to technical and experimental facilities. CERN does not condone this kind of spoof, which breaches CERN’s professional guidelines, and is currently carrying out an internal investigation.

That statement by CERN was very carefully contrived, and it's a peculiar piece of work.

this video is a work of fiction showing a contrived scene.

Wait a minute. It's certainly not "a work of fiction"! It's not Gone With The Wind or Harry Potter. It's a real film of real people in a real place. If anything, it's a documentary.

showing a contrived scene.

Well, of course the scene was contrived (devised, conceived, thought up by somebody), but that doesn't mean it didn't happen! The Changing of the Guard at Buckingham Palace is a contrived scene, but it involves hundreds of real people, it often gets filmed, and it really happens. Real murders too are very often contrived (devised, conceived, thought up by somebody). For example, the Manson Murders or the Moors Murders, contrived by Charles Manson and Ian Brady respectively and carried out by them and others. To say that the CERN "scene" was "contrived" tells us next to nothing about it. It merely tells us that it was planned. But that much was already obvious. (It didn't happen by accident.) That JFK's convoy would drive through Dealey Plaza was also (very carefully) contrived. The filming of it was also contrived, by Zapruder and a couple of others. Does this imply that JFK was not really assassinated? I think we should be told, at long last.

Persons that are authorised to access the CERN site sometimes let their sense of humour go too far, and that is what has happened on this occasion.

At least ten of them? And "sense of humour"? Stabbing a woman in the throat, or even pretending to stab a woman in the throat? What's funny about a contrivance like that?

[guruilla]

This is another crowley's pranks, right? The quote isn't complete. Anyways it goes on explaining how the yonger the sacrifice is the better it is i. e. human semen.

I don't feel like this can go unaddressed, even tho it's a footnote to the thread.

Here's the entire chapter (AFAIK, I don't have the book here). If this was one of AC's "pranks" then we can consider his entire oeuvre & the history of occultism a prank. Which I suppose some people here do.

CHAPTER XII

OF THE BLOODY SACRIFICE: AND MATTERS COGNATE

It is necessary for us to consider carefully the problems connected with the bloody sacrifice, for this question is indeed traditionally important in Magick. Nigh all ancient Magick revolves around this matter. In particular all the Osirian religions — the rites of the Dying God — refer to this. The slaying of Osiris and Adonis; the mutilation of Attis; the cults of Mexico and Peru; the story of Hercules or Melcarth; the legends of Dionysus and of Mithra, are all connected with this one idea. In the Hebrew religion we find the same thing inculcated. The first ethical lesson in the Bible is that the only sacrifice pleasing to the Lord is the sacrifice of blood; Abel, who made this, finding favour with the Lord, while Cain, who offered cabbages, was rather naturally considered a cheap sport. The idea recurs again and again. We have the sacrifice of the Passover, following on the story of Abraham’s being commanded to sacrifice his firstborn son, with the idea of the substitution of animal for human life. The annual ceremony of the two goats carries out this in perpetuity. And we see again the domination of this idea in the romance of Esther, where Haman and Mordecai are the two goats or gods; and ultimately in the presentation of the rite of Purim in Palestine, where Jesus and Barabbas happened to be the Goats in that particular year of which we hear so much, without agreement on the date.

This subject must be studied in the “Golden Bough”, where it is most learnedly set forth by Dr. J. G. Frazer.

Enough has now been said to show that the bloody sacrifice has from time immemorial been the most considered part of Magick. {92} The ethics of the thing appear to have concerned no one; nor, to tell the truth, need they do so. As St. Paul says, “Without shedding of blood there is no remission”; and who are we to argue with St. Paul? But, after all that, it is open to any one to have any opinion that he likes upon the subject, or any other subject, thank God! At the same time, it is most necessary to study the business, whatever we may be going to do about it; for our ethics themselves will naturally depend upon our theory of the universe. If we were quite certain, for example, that everybody went to heaven when he died, there could be no serious objection to murder or suicide, as it is generally conceded — by those who know neither — that earth is not such a pleasant place as heaven. However, there is a mystery concealed in this theory of the bloody sacrifice which is of great importance to the student, and we therefore make no further apology, We should not have made even this apology for an apology, had it not been for the solicitude of a pious young friend of great austerity of character who insisted that the part of this chapter which now follows — the part which was originally written — might cause us to be misunderstood. This must not be.

The blood is the life. This simple statement is explained by the Hindus by saying that the blood is the principal vehicle of vital Prana. There is some ground for the belief that there is a definite substance , not isolated as yet, whose presence makes all {93} the difference between live and dead matter. We pass by with deserved contempt the pseudoscientific experiments of American charlatans who claim to have established that weight is lost at the moment of death, and the unsupported statements of alleged clairvoyants that they have seen the soul issuing like a vapour from the mouth of persons “in articulo mortis”; but his experiences as an explorer have convinced the Master Therion that meat loses a notable portion of its nutritive value within a very few minutes after the death of the animal, and that this loss proceeds with everdiminishing rapidity as time goes on. It is further generally conceded that live food, such as oysters, is the most rapidly assimilable and most concentrated form of energy. Laboratory experiments in food-values seem to be almost worthless, for reasons which we cannot here enter into; the general testimony of mankind appears a safer guide.

It would be unwise to condemn as irrational the practice of those savages who tear the heart and liver from an adversary, and devour them while yet warm. In any case it was the theory of {94} the ancient Magicians, that any living being is a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the size and health of the animal, and in quality according to its mental and moral character. At the death of the animal this energy is liberated suddenly.

The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony — thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin — the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim. {95} For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle — the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape.

Those magicians who object to the use of blood have endeavored to replace it with incense. For such a purpose the incense of Abramelin may be burnt in large quantities. Dittany of Crete is also a valuable medium. Both these incenses are very catholic in their nature, and suitable for almost any materialization. But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best. The truly great Magician will be able to use his own blood, or possibly that of a disciple, and that without sacrificing the physical life irrevocably. An example of this sacrifice is given in Chapter 44 of Liber 333. This Mass may be recommended generally for daily practice.

One last word on this subject. There is a Magical operation of maximum importance: the Initiation of a New Aeon. When it becomes necessary to utter a Word, the whole Planet must be bathed in blood. Before man is ready to accept the Law of Thelema, the Great War must be fought. This Bloody Sacrifice is the critical point of the World-{96}Ceremony of the Proclamation of Horus, the Crowned and conquering Child, as Lord of the Aeon.

This whole matter is prophesied in the Book of the Law itself; let the student take note, and enter the ranks of the Host of the Sun.

II There is another sacrifice with regard to which the Adepts have always maintained the most profound secrecy. It is the supreme mystery of practical Magick. Its name is the Formula of the Rosy Cross. In this case the victim is always — in a certain sense — the Magician himself, and the sacrifice must coincide with the utterance of the most sublime and secret name of the God whom he wishes to invoke.

Properly performed, it never fails of its effect. But it is difficult for the beginner to do it satisfactorily, because it is a great effort for the mind to remain concentrated upon the purpose of the ceremony. The overcoming of this difficulty lends most powerful aid to the Magician.

It is unwise for him to attempt it until he has received regular initiation in the true Order of the Rosy Cross, {97} and he must have taken the vows with the fullest comprehension and experience of their meaning. It is also extremely desirable that he should have attained an absolute degree of moral emancipation, and that purity of spirit which results from a perfect understanding both of the differences and harmonies of the planes upon the Tree of Life.

For this reason FRATER PERDURABO has never dared to use this formula in a fully ceremonial manner, save once only, on an occasion of tremendous import, when, indeed, it was not He that made the offering, but ONE in Him. For he perceived a grave defect in his moral character which he has been able to overcome on the intellectual plane, but not hitherto upon higher planes. Before the conclusion of writing this book he will have done so.

The practical details of the Bloody Sacrifice may be studied in various ethnological manuals, but the general conclusions are summed up in Frazer’s “Golden Bough”, which is strongly recommended to the reader. Actual ceremonial details likewise may be left to experiment. The method of killing is practically uniform. The animal should be stabbed to the heart, or its throat severed, in either case by the knife. All other methods of killing are less efficacious; even in the case of Crucifixion death is given by stabbing. One may remark that warm-blooded animals only are used as victims: with two principal exceptions. The first is the serpent, which is only used in a very special Ritual; the second the magical beetles of Liber Legis. (See Part IV.) {98}

One word of warning is perhaps necessary for the beginner. The victim must be in perfect health — or its energy may be as it were poisoned. It must also not be too large: the amount of energy disengaged is almost unimaginably great, and out of all anticipated proportion to the strength of the animal. Consequently, the Magician may easily be overwhelmed and obsessed by the force which he has let loose; it will then probably manifest itself in its lowest and most objectionable form. The most intense spirituality of purpose is absolutely essential to safety. In evocations the danger is not so great, as the Circle forms a protection; but the circle in such a case must be protected, not only by the names of God and the Invocations used at the same time, but by a long habit of successful defence. If you are easily disturbed or alarmed, or if you have not yet overcome the tendency of the mind to wander, it is not advisable for you to perform {99} the “Bloody Sacrifice”. Yet it should not be forgotten that this, and that other art at which we have dared darkly to hint, are the supreme formulae of Practical Magick.

You are also likely to get into trouble over this chapter unless you truly comprehend its meaning.
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A single stab to the windpipe would most likely not kill someone.

Exploring ritual sacrifice and CERN is interesting.
Twisting logic into pretzels to validate a hoax video is fools play.

& opinions in place of arguments add nothing but noise to the discussion. To make accusations of pretzeled logic without citing a single example is like trying to pass off as a driveby shooting as a showdown. Sloppy.