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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby backtoiam » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:10 pm

Trump is only a stooge in a stage play. He would have no power. He would do as is he told to do or he would get the JFK treatment, which is lead poisoning to the head. I see the pandemonium over Trump laughable at best considering that the RI crowd knows that a president is only a talking head controlled by the puppet masters of the of the money creating faction.

Those rare few that create money out of thin air and decide what money is are the king of the world and are not public figures. The talking heads we see publicly are only puppets that do as they are told.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:34 pm

Trump Foreign Policy Adviser Accused of Holocaust Denial



Anti-Semitic Trump campaign CEO Stephen Bannon not a big fan of ‘whiny brat’ Jews, ex-wife says

NANCY DILLON
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Friday, August 26, 2016, 9:00 PM
Donald Trump's campaign CEO Stephen Bannon was branded an anti-Semite by the same ex-wife who claimed he choked her, court documents reveal.

Mary Louise Piccard said in a 2007 court declaration that Bannon didn't want their twin daughters attending the Archer School for Girls in Los Angeles because many Jewish students were enrolled at the elite institution.

"The biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend," Piccard said in her statement signed on June 27, 2007.

"He said that he doesn't like the way they raise their kids to be 'whiny brats' and that he didn't want the girls going to school with Jews," Piccard wrote.

"I told him that there are children who are Jewish at (a competing school), and he asked me what the percentage was. I told him that I didn't know because it wasn't an issue for me as I am not raising the girls to be either anti-Semitic or prejudiced against anyone," she wrote.

Piccard and Bannon were locked in a contentious child custody war when she accused him of the bigoted behavior a decade after first filing for divorce.

She also claimed Bannon physically attacked her inside their Santa Monica, Calif., residence in 1996 and later ran her out of town to get out of his criminal trial.

She said Bannon blew up at her on Jan. 1, 1996, in an argument over her plan to take a credit card to the store.

"(Bannon) became physical with me and grabbed me by the throat and arm," she said in her sworn statement.

She said Bannon chased her into their house, threatening to kidnap their girls, she said.

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Bannon reportedly objected to his daughter’s enrollment at the Archer School for Girls in Los Angeles over the large number of Jewish students. (MARK BOSTER/LA TIMES VIA GETTY IMAGES)
"I took the phone to call the police and he grabbed the phone away from me throwing it across the room, and breaking it as he screamed that I was a "crazy f-----g c--t!" He then left."

Cops responded to the fight and found red marks on her left wrist and the right side of her neck, according to a police report released by Santa Monica officials Friday.

Bannon faced misdemeanor domestic violence, battery and dissuading a witness charges and hired a criminal lawyer, court records show.

"The criminal attorney threatened me, indicating that if Respondent went to jail, I would have no money and no way to support the children," Piccard wrote.

She said Bannon told her to leave town so she couldn't be served in the case or testify against him.

"I was told that I could go anywhere in the world. His attorney, along with respondent, arranged for me to leave town until the trial was over and it was okay for me to return home. I left town for two weeks with the children and was an hour and a half away by car until the attorney phoned me and told me I could come back," she wrote.

An email to Bannon's spokeswoman Alexandra Preate regarding the claims of anti-Semitism was not immediately returned Friday.

"The bottom line is he has a great relationship with the twins, he has a great relationship with the ex-wife, he still supports them," Preate told Politico in response to the domestic violence allegations first reported by the political news website late Thursday.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:41 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:17 pm wrote:
Nordic » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:44 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:38 am wrote:blatant in your face racism does bring out the worst in people

and btw he is just not a racist he incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, misogynist and birther



I'm not disagreeing that he's all of these things.

He is.

My point is that Hillary is actually WORSE.

Any chance we could acknowledge that, or is being a racist the absolute worst thing a person could be?

Serious question. I believe being a murdering war criminal neocon hell bent on starting WW3 is actually worse. And what is slaughtering men and women and children around the globe if not racist?


I'm going to have to disagree most vociferously, Trump is FAR FUCKING WORSE than Hillary.

First, any chance we could acknowledge that when it comes to foreign policy and geopolitics, the President always follows an agenda of Elite origin not of their own making? That Bill Hicks may have couched it in humorous terms, but he was actually spelling out the way things really work?

Because once you acknowledge that, it's quite clear the only difference between Trump and Clinton is what they'll accomplish domestically. And that's where Trump is FAR FUCKING WORSE for all the reasons seemslikeadream has mentioned plus a whole lot more.

You really think if the Elite are "hell bent on starting WW3" Trump would stand in their way?


I dig everyone's take on here and wonder if you or anyone can point to articles or name offhand what elites are behind Trump? It seems, least on the surface its the homegrown right wing anti globalist/anti neocons
behind Trump with Clinton with the solid support of "globalist" interests. Kissinger of course, but now Wolfowitz and most of the Bush team are now behind Clinton. The Rothschilds held a recent elite dinner fundraiser to the tune of $100,000 a plate last month. The argument comes down with RI minded people: who is worse...the globalist hawk type with track records of destabilizing regions to the tune of hundreds of thousands dead, or the
Goldwater/Wallace/Trump populist type who is isolationist but ultra nationalist. It's weird to see the anti war/anti globalist side being the bad guys, but the venomous hate oozing every day from the Trump realm of supporters is unbelievable. I've joked regarding Decision 2016: Do you want the president who incites world war 3, or a civil war? :(
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:48 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:38 pm wrote:
8bitagent » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:16 am wrote:Part of me still thinks that if there was no Bernie Sanders, and research showed a far angry populist left turn would win him the White House, Trump would have come out in June 2016 as Bernie Sanders on steroids.


There's a part of me that agrees with you. Trump will literally say and do anything to attract attention in the hopes of garnering enough votes to prop up his phony reality TV image of being the ultimate in winning. But with or without Bernie, I don't think Trump took that turn because:

1. I don't think that the US has a large enough angry populist left contingency to win the White House and Trump knows that.

2. He's a fucking racist. A pro-choice, pro-gay rights racist, but still, once he threw his lot in with the birthers six years ago, it's pretty fucking hard to run as a lefty.


Larry King says Trump isnt a racist, and its true his public persona always had him hobnobbing with black celebrities; from Michael Jackson to more controversial figures like Al Sharpton.
But yeah it is telling that freaking Nixon went after Fred and Donnie Trump for refusing blacks in any of their properties, or rumors Trump demanded black floor personnel to not be seen when certain
big guests would take a tour. There's also the full page ad and campaign Trump ran in 1989 calling for the death of the "Central Park 5"...when they turned out to be innocent and released, Trump tweeted
in 2012 that they fooled everyone. Its so weirdly cringe worthy when Trump angrily yells "Black people! What do you have to lose? WHAT....DO YOU HAVE...to lose?" in that jarring cadence he effects.

I honestly thought, and I've written about, that I assumed the presidency of Obama would have brought out a sizeable wave of hate filled far right militias and nationalists to center stage. But I never
thought an 80's tv icon buffoon would be the one to do it. Even if Trump is just Andy Kauffmaning into a fake role of strongman hater, its definitely awoken something fiercely dark in America that is dovetailing with Europe.
(I would also argue the neocons 2001-2016 destabilization in the Islamic world is forcing millions of Arabs unnaturally into Europe, which is having the predictable effect of stoking the European far right)
Scarier than Donald Trump...may be many European nations seem poised to all be electing racist far right leaders in the coming years.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:22 am

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Postby 82_28 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:36 pm

Yeah, I'm going to stoke the rumor mill. But the Internet rumors are flying supposedly that trump actually had Dwayne Wade's cousin killed.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/interne ... vote-trump

I don't know of course, just it is being mentioned. I wouldn't put it past him.

Also she was shot outside of DULLES elementary. Dunno if there's anything to that. Just something to consider! I really don't know what the fuck is going on like everyone else.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:53 pm

why not....fucker playing the rumor mills all the time ...he needs a bit of his own medicine

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All politicians are shameless opportunists, but it's stories like Dwyane Wade's cousin being shot that gets Trump out of bed with a smile.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:02 pm

Yeah, Trump definitely had someone shot in Chicago to help his campaign. And what does "flying supposedly" mean? Mighty suspect, bud. Pretty sure I smell some marijuana coming from inside your vehicle, too.

Anyways, this right here had me in tears, this is beautiful:

Stories about the ramshackle nature of the Trump campaign are abundant. A recent article called Donald Trump’s organization “more concert tour than presidential campaign.” A 12-year-old appears to be running Trump’s field office in a populous Colorado county. Sixty percent of registered voters — and even 40 percent of Republicans — believe that Trump’s campaign is “poorly run.”

This is obviously unprecedented in modern presidential elections. Typically, the candidates have similar resources and campaign organizations. Typically, it is difficult for one candidate to have a large advantage in televised advertising or fieldwork. In 2012, for example, my research with Lynn Vavreck showed that neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney could sustain a durable advantage in advertising. Obama’s edge in fieldwork did appear to net him votes, although not enough to be decisive in the electoral college.

By comparison, Trump is being vastly outspent in advertising and is limited essentially to whatever field organization the Republican National Committee can provide — which will be exceeded by Hillary Clinton’s, much as Romney’s was exceeded by Obama’s. How much will this cost him on Election Day?

Probably the best estimate comes from a recently published piece by political scientists Ryan Enos and Anthony Fowler. They show that the effect of the 2012 presidential campaign on voter turnout was quite large, about 7-8 points overall.

They arrive at this estimate by analyzing a sort of experiment: media markets that span state boundaries, such that part of the market falls in a battleground state and part doesn’t. Voters in one of those markets would be potentially exposed to the same amount of televised political advertising but different amounts of other campaign activity. In particular, you would expect that the battleground state voters would be far more likely to be contacted by campaign fieldworkers, who generally aren’t going to contact voters outside of battleground states.

Enos and Fowler found that voter turnout within these markets was much higher in the battleground state portion than the non-battleground state portion. About 7-8 points higher, in fact. Most of this, they argue, can be attributed to canvassing by the campaigns via door knocking and phone calls, which other political science research has shown to be particularly effective. The increases in turnout were even larger — closer to 10 points — among the strongest partisans, who should be particularly susceptible to mobilization attempts.

Notably, Enos and Fowler also found that these increases in turnout were similar among Democrats and Republicans. As they noted in a previous Monkey Cage post, this implies that both the Romney and Obama campaigns were able to mobilize voters successfully.


And as I shared before, this Bloomberg piece:

Spending on political advertising during the U.S. presidential election has dropped 60 percent from 2012, a troubling sign for local TV broadcasters that were counting on a windfall.

Since late April, when Donald Trump effectively secured the Republican nomination, $146 million has been spent in the presidential race by all sponsors, compared with $373 million over the same period in 2012, according to an analysis by Ken Goldstein, a Bloomberg Politics polling and advertising analyst. That hurts station owners like Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc., Tegna Inc., and Tribune Media Co., Goldstein said.

Spending is down in part because Trump’s campaign has relied instead on getting his message across in a steady stream of media interviews and tweets. There also hasn’t been as much spending by Republican outside groups, such as political action committees, as there was in 2012, Goldstein said. On the Democratic side, the primary season went longer this year than four years ago as Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders battled into early summer.

“It delayed the start of general election advertising in battleground states where the real money is,” said Goldstein, who is also a politics professor at University of San Francisco.

The Clinton campaign has spent around $50 million on broadcast television advertising since mid-June, almost all of it in 10 battleground states. The largest ad buy last week, $2.2 million, was in Florida, though this ultimately comes out to just $83,000 for each of the state’s all-important Electoral College votes. In comparison, the Democratic nominee spent more than $100,000 per Electoral College vote in Nevada and Pennsylvania.

Steve Lanzano, president of the Television Bureau of Advertising, which represents the local broadcast industry, said he expects more advertising dollars to pour in to Senate races, helping cushion the blow from the lack of presidential ad spending.

“Certainly it’s not what was expected,” he said. “But you’re going to see the money coming in. It’ll just come in later.”

For broadcasters, that won’t make up for four months of lost revenue, Goldstein said. Sinclair shares are down 9.9 percent this year and Tegna has dropped 16 percent. Tribune Media is up 15 percent after announcing in February that it was exploring strategic options for the business.
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Postby JackRiddler » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:32 pm

I like the last one posted by WR. The corporate media whores who built the Trump phenomenon for the ratings, now hoist by their own petard as they lose the ad revenues.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:42 pm

Excellent longform ditty right here: https://extranewsfeed.com/the-greatest- ... .u30iwgqmd

Interesting piece, In Which a Young Republican Concludes The Primary Dividing Line is Class
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:47 pm

8bitagent » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:41 pm wrote:
I dig everyone's take on here and wonder if you or anyone can point to articles or name offhand what elites are behind Trump?


As ever, start with the money. VP selection Mike Pence was a nod to specific power blocs; he comes with his own sponsorships & obligations.

One major name that's been emerging in the past year is Robert Mercer, which is wild. He's part of the James Harris Simons hedge-fund Renaissance Technologies. Simons is one of the single most impressive & intelligent people on the East Coast, to me.

Mercer, less so. Dude supported Ted Cruz and now he's rallying to Trump's side -- Mercer is also the connection that's linked up walrus-faced John Bolton as a "Foreign Policy Advisor," although I doubt Trump listens to a single word that wonk has to sputter. His other claim to fame is spending over $2m on a fucking model railroad and then suing the guy who actually built it for him -- the rich need hobbies, bruh.

Atlantic did a detailed piece - Trump's Self-Funding Lie - mind you, this coverage is from May:

It’s not just that Trump is now courting major donors. (Sheldon Adelson, perhaps the most famous conservative donor not named Koch, has a column in today’s Washington Post explaining why he backs Trump, even though Trump has (1) bashed major donors and (2) been extremely aloof to Israel, Adelson’s major cause.) It’s also that he’s opening up to super PACs. Formally, Trump can do little to stop super PACs—according to the federal rules, it’s illegal for campaigns to coordinate with them. But candidates, including Trump, have found ways to send messages. In October, Trump demanded that super PACs backing him close up shop—though only after the Post spotlighted the close ties between the Trump campaign and one of the super PACs. In April, Trump’s campaign sent a cajoling letter to Great America PAC, a new super PAC backing him, complaining that the group could confuse backers and muddy his message.

More recently, however, after Great America hired former Ronald Reagan operative Ed Rollins, Trump seemed to be more accepting, calling Rollins “tremendous.” Rollins—who to be fair has a reputation for being a loose cannon with little regard for bosses—seemed confident about the PAC’s role, saying, “Usually a super PAC is frosting on a cake. We’re going to be part of the cake.”

Calling this simply a flip-flop lets Trump off the hook, though. Trump has made self-funding a major point of his campaign, proof that unlike his rivals, he’s not beholden to anyone.

...

In reality, self-funding a general-election campaign for president was never plausible. Trump has managed to skate through the primary with less money than his rivals because of his ability to get free media attention. That won’t work as well in a general election, and Trump has estimated he’d need around $1.5 billion for the general. That seems plausible; Obama and Mitt Romney each raised a little more than $1 billion in 2012.

Trump claims to be worth $10 billion, a claim which ought to be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism. Even if true, spending 15 percent of one’s fortune on a presidential race seems like a gamble, although Trump has made plenty of bad bets in his career. If he’s worth closer to $4.5 billion, as Forbes guesses, it’s an even more painful choice. The last major (using the term loosely) candidate to self-fund was H. Ross Perot in 1992. Perot was at the time worth $2.4 billion, according to Forbes. But campaigns were much cheaper then: A book by two professors pegged the total cost of Perot’s campaign at just $68.4 million.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:51 pm

Kellyanne Conway = Robert Mercer

"The Money Man" Behind Both Breitbart News And The Trump Campaign
Billionaire Robert Mercer Funded Both Breitbart And A Pro-Trump Super PAC
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/2 ... ign/212685
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Postby 82_28 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:54 pm

I just watched his "speech" at the Iowa state fair. The "first minute" he becomes the prez HE WILL BEGIN ROUNDING UP people. To great applause.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:03 pm

TRUMP is seriously dangerous....seriously....extremely dangerous
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:25 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:47 pm wrote:
8bitagent » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:41 pm wrote:
I dig everyone's take on here and wonder if you or anyone can point to articles or name offhand what elites are behind Trump?


As ever, start with the money. VP selection Mike Pence was a nod to specific power blocs; he comes with his own sponsorships & obligations.

One major name that's been emerging in the past year is Robert Mercer, which is wild. He's part of the James Harris Simons hedge-fund Renaissance Technologies. Simons is one of the single most impressive & intelligent people on the East Coast, to me.

Mercer, less so. Dude supported Ted Cruz and now he's rallying to Trump's side -- Mercer is also the connection that's linked up walrus-faced John Bolton as a "Foreign Policy Advisor," although I doubt Trump listens to a single word that wonk has to sputter. His other claim to fame is spending over $2m on a fucking model railroad and then suing the guy who actually built it for him -- the rich need hobbies, bruh.

Atlantic did a detailed piece - Trump's Self-Funding Lie - mind you, this coverage is from May:

It’s not just that Trump is now courting major donors. (Sheldon Adelson, perhaps the most famous conservative donor not named Koch, has a column in today’s Washington Post explaining why he backs Trump, even though Trump has (1) bashed major donors and (2) been extremely aloof to Israel, Adelson’s major cause.) It’s also that he’s opening up to super PACs. Formally, Trump can do little to stop super PACs—according to the federal rules, it’s illegal for campaigns to coordinate with them. But candidates, including Trump, have found ways to send messages. In October, Trump demanded that super PACs backing him close up shop—though only after the Post spotlighted the close ties between the Trump campaign and one of the super PACs. In April, Trump’s campaign sent a cajoling letter to Great America PAC, a new super PAC backing him, complaining that the group could confuse backers and muddy his message.

More recently, however, after Great America hired former Ronald Reagan operative Ed Rollins, Trump seemed to be more accepting, calling Rollins “tremendous.” Rollins—who to be fair has a reputation for being a loose cannon with little regard for bosses—seemed confident about the PAC’s role, saying, “Usually a super PAC is frosting on a cake. We’re going to be part of the cake.”

Calling this simply a flip-flop lets Trump off the hook, though. Trump has made self-funding a major point of his campaign, proof that unlike his rivals, he’s not beholden to anyone.

...

In reality, self-funding a general-election campaign for president was never plausible. Trump has managed to skate through the primary with less money than his rivals because of his ability to get free media attention. That won’t work as well in a general election, and Trump has estimated he’d need around $1.5 billion for the general. That seems plausible; Obama and Mitt Romney each raised a little more than $1 billion in 2012.

Trump claims to be worth $10 billion, a claim which ought to be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism. Even if true, spending 15 percent of one’s fortune on a presidential race seems like a gamble, although Trump has made plenty of bad bets in his career. If he’s worth closer to $4.5 billion, as Forbes guesses, it’s an even more painful choice. The last major (using the term loosely) candidate to self-fund was H. Ross Perot in 1992. Perot was at the time worth $2.4 billion, according to Forbes. But campaigns were much cheaper then: A book by two professors pegged the total cost of Perot’s campaign at just $68.4 million.


And Peter Thiel, don't forget. And his brigade of billionaire hedge-fund "economic advisers," including John Paulson. And his ideology of property should rule. And his accommodation with the corporate media, which made his campaign until now and which you can be certain will be restored if he gets elected. The idea that he is against the ruling class as a whole is pernicious and false on its face. His partisans among them are among the worst, and what unites them is the piratical mindset. They will be happy to feed on the ruins of the society.
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