What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

[Joe Hillshoist]

Of all of this data, the police sketches supposedly linking the Podestas to McCann is the weakest and I think the most likely thing to be unadulterated well-poisoning. Why would two of the most powerful players in Washington who (if they belong to high-power pedophile-rings) have unlimited access to children do their own kidnapping? It makes no sense at all.

The whole thing is weak but you've got the critical thinking skills of a decapitated newt so you didn't notice.

I want to add one more bit of Pizzagate data. It's small, but it was enough of a contextual datum to push me onto one side of the debate. (While I have thought from the start that the whole thing was super creepy, I've still wondered whether we had enough of a view of the overall context to really evaluate the seemingly damning evidence that may, in the final analysis, have been cherry picked either to discredit the Podestas or else as a wild collective paranoid flight of fancy.) The artist who painted the murals at Comet has other work that can easily be googled. All of it is seemingly of an occult nature, depicting obvious scenes of sex and potentially sex magic. To me, these images seem similar in spirit to many of the images on AC's Thoth Tarot deck. Photos of the artist himself show eyes that (to me) demonstrate an occult practice (compare, e.g. with photos of Helena Blavatsky). My feelings/intuitions aside, the murals at Comet are part of a body of work whose themes should really not overlap with a venue that is serious about being "family friendly". Too many of the artists associated with Comet have obvious occult themes in their work. This to me suggests that the jokes made on Instagram represent more than just bad taste. The context renders them something else.

Yep. To re-post my comments to you from our discussion elsewhere (& in the hope of nullifying Joe H's shamelessly reactionary attempt at baiting; god save us from the hipster-guardians of "free expression" who see a witch hunt in every attempt to place things in deeper context):

WTF would you know about context?

I've fucked about with sex magic for nearly 30 years and now you and slomo are saying that on its own is enough to indicate that someone is part of international child abuse network. Thanks for that. I bet you think you're not rude pricks either.

There is no context just lots of speculation, confirmation bias and a "hate on lefties" circle jerk.

[Sounder]

There is no context just lots of speculation, confirmation bias and a "hate on lefties" circle jerk.

How can neo-liberals be considered 'lefties' when they are nothing more than neo-cons with a smile?

Their militant pushing of and deeply embedded western exceptionalism make them the most problematic of all racists.

At least neo-cons are racist right on the face of it.

Why did the pizza place change their logo? Coincidence?

[Joe Hillshoist]

There is no context just lots of speculation, confirmation bias and a "hate on lefties" circle jerk.

How can neo-liberals be considered 'lefties' when they are nothing more than neo-cons with a smile?

Their militant pushing of and deeply embedded western exceptionalism make them the most problematic of all racists.

At least neo-cons are racist right on the face of it.

Why did the pizza place change their logo? Coincidence?

If you ran a business and its logo was suddenly associated with an international pedo ring you'd change it too. Anyone would, guilty or innocent. And don't think for a minute that these people don't know about the Chan bullshit. Go look at the comments associated with them, most of them are vile and violent and based on no evidence at all. That Apes video ... that is supposedly so evil ... what drugs was the person on who decided that video was indicative of anything other than a lack of real talent? Obviously the wrong ones. And the comments in that are full on. That vid probably hadn't been viewed for five years.

All the people associated with this particular thread of ugliness are on the "left" at least according to the so called "conservatives" (ie the "right" side of politics,) who bang on about this shit all the time.

[Sounder]

Fair points Joe, but I still assert that these folk are not on the 'left'.

Rather, they can be seen as people with power who know in their hearts that they do not deserve that power.

Whether they be Brussels bureaucrats, aristocrats, republicans or democrats, they all tend towards abusing others, the more powerless the better, in their never ending quest to convince themselves of their own power.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Fair points Joe, but I still assert that these folk are not on the 'left'.

Rather, they can be seen as people with power who know in their hearts that they do not deserve that power.

Whether they be Brussels bureaucrats, aristocrats, republicans or democrats, they all tend towards abusing others, the more powerless the better, in their never ending quest to convince themselves of their own power.

Have a look at the list I posted upthread, on page 23 I think. That clearly shows that of the republicans and democrats one of them has a disproportionately high number of sexual predators who have abused adults and minors. So in the absence of any actual evidence all this shit appears to smear the other side of politics, the side with a lot less convicted sexual predators. In what appears to be an attempt to "keyword hijack' your brains.

I'm not even a fan of the Democrats. i wouldn't have voted for them in the last election. They seem pretty shit, but the other side are so much worse on so many levels. Including the level - number of convicted sex offenders. I'd agree the Ds aren't "left wing" in any way. And the people associated with those emails seem like creepy cocaine socialists. But in the absence of actual evidence of anything that is all they are (at this point.)

[slomo]

Of all of this data, the police sketches supposedly linking the Podestas to McCann is the weakest and I think the most likely thing to be unadulterated well-poisoning. Why would two of the most powerful players in Washington who (if they belong to high-power pedophile-rings) have unlimited access to children do their own kidnapping? It makes no sense at all.

The whole thing is weak but you've got the critical thinking skills of a decapitated newt so you didn't notice.

I want to add one more bit of Pizzagate data. It's small, but it was enough of a contextual datum to push me onto one side of the debate. (While I have thought from the start that the whole thing was super creepy, I've still wondered whether we had enough of a view of the overall context to really evaluate the seemingly damning evidence that may, in the final analysis, have been cherry picked either to discredit the Podestas or else as a wild collective paranoid flight of fancy.) The artist who painted the murals at Comet has other work that can easily be googled. All of it is seemingly of an occult nature, depicting obvious scenes of sex and potentially sex magic. To me, these images seem similar in spirit to many of the images on AC's Thoth Tarot deck. Photos of the artist himself show eyes that (to me) demonstrate an occult practice (compare, e.g. with photos of Helena Blavatsky). My feelings/intuitions aside, the murals at Comet are part of a body of work whose themes should really not overlap with a venue that is serious about being "family friendly". Too many of the artists associated with Comet have obvious occult themes in their work. This to me suggests that the jokes made on Instagram represent more than just bad taste. The context renders them something else.

Yep. To re-post my comments to you from our discussion elsewhere (& in the hope of nullifying Joe H's shamelessly reactionary attempt at baiting; god save us from the hipster-guardians of "free expression" who see a witch hunt in every attempt to place things in deeper context):

WTF would you know about context?

I've fucked about with sex magic for nearly 30 years and now you and slomo are saying that on its own is enough to indicate that someone is part of international child abuse network. Thanks for that. I bet you think you're not rude pricks either.

There is no context just lots of speculation, confirmation bias and a "hate on lefties" circle jerk.

For the record, it is not the occult trappings alone that I find suspicious. If you carefully read my history you'll see I'm no stranger to occult stuff, fond as I am of chaos magick (in small doses) as well as qigong. What I find suspicious is the occult references PLUS the child abuse references PLUS the social networks that lead directly to DOJ offices responsible for investigating human trafficking (which we would suspect to be compromised, otherwise why are you even on RI?) Also, check out the WhereIsAssange subreddit, it is not unrelated to all this.

[divideandconquer]

My take is that the powerful predators "exposed" through this supposed "leak" are thoroughly enjoying the uproar and hysterical speculation of the merely human.

[slomo]

My take is that the powerful predators "exposed" through this supposed "leak" are thoroughly enjoying the uproar and hysterical speculation of the merely human.

That's why they've set their Instagrams and Youtubes to private setting. I would too, if I innocently found myself in the middle of an internet shitstorm, but I certainly would not be enjoying the attention. Look, they could all be innocent. But it seems to me that they've gone out of their way to look creepy AF. Lord knows, that is the one thing that weighs in favor of their innocence: if you were guilty of CP and related worse crimes, wouldn't you do everything possible to look normal?

[divideandconquer]

My take is that the powerful predators "exposed" through this supposed "leak" are thoroughly enjoying the uproar and hysterical speculation of the merely human.

That's why they've set their Instagrams and Youtubes to private setting. I would too, if I innocently found myself in the middle of an internet shitstorm, but I certainly would not be enjoying the attention. Look, they could all be innocent. But it seems to me that they've gone out of their way to look creepy AF. Lord knows, that is the one thing that weighs in favor of their innocence: if you were guilty of CP and related worse crimes, wouldn't you do everything possible to look normal?

Everyone knows the very rich, the very powerful are not like us, however, what everyone does not know is the degree to which they are not like us. I don't think F. Scott Fitzgerald's quote begins to cover it. The most important thing to keep in mind is how they see us: sub-human, worthless, stupid, powerless, hopeless. I think it's come to a point where they feel quite secure as they've gotten away with everything: 9/11; 2008 manufactured financial crisis; false flags, galore; pedophile rings, galore; illegal wars; continuous crackdown on our rights; GMOs; the most absurd and surreal presidential election in history, etc., etc.,

As far as setting their Instagrams and youtubes to private, you have to ask yourself why they were public in the first place. No matter what the real story is, those pictures are disturbing. I wouldn't be surprised if they were set to private until right before the "big reveal". They set it to private after the fact because that's what normal human beings would do and they do have to, at the very least, appear normal, not to mention, it further fuels the flames.

The bottom line is that they are not you or me and in my humble opinion, most of them are enjoying every minute. If nothing else, we entertain them...

[maco144]

#Twittergate is todays big movement due to Twitter banning a user who posted thousands of accounts actively using Twitter as their CP platform while keeping those accounts active.

Looking forward to hearing more cognitive dissonance based responses from all the weak minded people here who are avoiding factual reality.

[Wombaticus Rex]

#Twittergate is todays big movement due to Twitter banning a user who posted thousands of accounts actively using Twitter as their CP platform while keeping those accounts active.

Looking forward to hearing more cognitive dissonance based responses from all the weak minded people here who are avoiding factual reality.

Looking forward to you engaging like an adult at some point in 2017.

[Agent Orange Cooper]

Of all of this data, the police sketches supposedly linking the Podestas to McCann is the weakest and I think the most likely thing to be unadulterated well-poisoning. Why would two of the most powerful players in Washington who (if they belong to high-power pedophile-rings) have unlimited access to children do their own kidnapping? It makes no sense at all.

The whole thing is weak but you've got the critical thinking skills of a decapitated newt so you didn't notice.

So civil. He totally deserved that! Thanks for setting us all straight, and for your righteous defense of the poor Podesta family. Your attitude is just what I love about this place.

[OP ED]

The link between besta pizza and the DoJ itself WOULD be the best/most implicative circumstantial evidence, unfortunately it was debunked at least a couple days ago. It just takes hard fact a while to work it's way down the hall of mirrors. Different guys sharing an not uncommon name in a citystate of millions. Jfyi.

Marina Abramovic isn't an occult expert recognized by anyone either. That's just nonsense. She has vaguely nazi tendencies and demonstrates a sort of odd obsessed behavior that barely counts as art but that's about it.

There don't appear to be any historical references to this supposed pedo pizza code that predate the original hashtags. You're taking the trolls word for it if you're following this line of thinking. With no establishing precedent it would be difficult to find any information contained this way. Could be all projection, this despite the odd contexts.

[tapitsbo]

I thought the DoJ was linked through that Rao guy

the instagram is still the weirdest part to me

among many

the whole topic is buried by CTR type trolls now/sketchy people posting illegal material/etc., on reddit and so on (to be expected of course)

[slomo]

I thought the DoJ was linked through that Rao guy

the instagram is still the weirdest part to me

among many

the whole topic is buried by CTR type trolls now/sketchy people posting illegal material/etc., on reddit and so on (to be expected of course)

Yup and Yup. Has the Rao connection been debunked? If so, I update my Bayesian reasoning algorithm and lower the probability accordingly, once again entertaining the idea that these are just very rich, disconnected ("not like you and me") assholes who post pictures of child abuse on their instagrams, bask in the attention after the consequent public shitstorm (not before setting instagrams to private status) but would totes never actually torture a child for sexual gratification. Because that is simply beyond belief, nobody would ever do that!

BTW, that picture of the little girl restrained by masking tape? If that ever happened in a healthcare setting, the institution responsible would risk losing its license. Fucking putting up all four rails on a hospital bed is considered unlawful restraint, for chrissakes. So there is at least evidence of potential child abuse in a legal sense.