What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

[Project Willow]

I keep thinking of the Obama hotdog/pizza party thing at the White House and the enthusiastic and enigmatic response to the "waitresses". That's "waitresses" in quotes. What were they? Who were they? Why did Obama spend $65k allegedly shipping junk food to the WH for a party with "waitresses"?

That was a very fucking weird detail, Amen.

Has anyone anywhere bothered to see if there are any press accounts of Obama hosting a hot dog and pizza dinner, for both of which Chicago is rather famous?

As to the general op, I'll copy a quip I posted recently in pizzagate thread elsewhere.

What bothers me is there are plenty of survivors who have come forward who could be interviewed and provide info on several high level pedos. Our cases need to be investigated, but no one talks to us, or indeed, pays any attention.

No one commented on the comment either. For those who profess to care about elite trafficking, ra and mc, there are real concrete actions that can be taken, but these require risk taking and sacrifice with no promise of entertainment or profit, of any kind. So of course we have hundreds of internet sleuths in a lather, meanwhile there are still no safe houses, and few treatment options for survivors. When the latter scenario begins to change, maybe I'll change my mind, but for now, the countless posts across the internet are mostly disingenuous, self serving hot air.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Joe, thanks for your valuable (and occasionally flattering) contributions to this thread, but I gotta ask... are you sure RAW ever fiddled kiddies? Are you perhaps mistaking him for Peter Lamborn Wilson?

J.

Speaking of evidence:

That the significance of Pizzagate is still in question at a board of this sort is mind-boggling in and of itself. Sure, a lot of the evidence is circumstantial and there isn't yet any proof of children being victimized (unless you consider sick jokes victimization, which I would); but that's irrelevant in terms of whether what evidence there is so far is worth examining with an eye to investigating further.

Yep.

So "pizzagate" is accusing people of raping and eating children but has no proof of children being victimized.

It makes a mockery of this board and of real victims of actual, real organised networks of pedophiles that someone would treat this like their own personal jesus complex, save the world crusade. Furthermore it discredits any potential further actual investigation into potentially real crimes by the people you are targeting without any proof of children being victimized.

You are poisoning the well.

If i was interested in covering up this sort of shit and making it harder to deal with in court or expose then people like you would be my first targets. I'd be using you to muddy the waters from day one.

To paraphrase that well known kiddie fiddler RAW:

Whenever i start believing my own bullshit I try and stop myself and ask "Whose useful idiot am i being right now."

I'm fairly sure he didn't.

i was just being an arsehole. Tho i'm pretty sure no one here with a brain would think he did. Its been suggested here before tho. Not by anyone with any cred that i remember. But I haven't been around much for a few years.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Well here's one actual missing child to consider.




Also who's keeping track of the Haitian children?

Gah. I keep going on about this is various places but even the left gatekeepers, who are usually my allies in these threads are ignoring Silsby and her Republican (Baptist) charity friends, who would be more statistically likely to appear in a trafficking thread.

A.. Caught smuggling COMPLETELY undocumented children out of Haiti for the Clinton Foundation.

B.. Associated with convicted pedophiles, I.e. her "contact" and legal counsel.

C. Recommended to CF through the good wife of Weinergate to help expand the child aid program whose startup cash was provided by another convicted pedophile.

(According, all of this, to wikileaks and court documents)

....

OP ED also, having had history in university, generally assumes all rich connectedness people have charitable organizations that are actually CIA fronts. This may be an assumption but it can easily be established as a trend, and it makes all the math here much simpler.

What you brought up is one of the few things in this thread thats been fairly reasonable and worth investigation fwiw.

[Philos]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBfCVIRcDA


I do believe in monsters, I call them officers
I know enough to know to keep an eye on how I talk to ya's
Some of y'all at peace, but even one to many
Still at peace and slumber for the reading of the beast,
There's no release, she keeps, and teaches no remorse
More resembling of a thief than a horse
Plans, long range, attached to some thangs
And an arm that's strong, watch the song when it change
Nothing's strange, cause you know before you saw it
It's all the same, there ain't no such thing as flawless
All I want is a little more security, a little more safety, a lot less uncertainty
Override the circuitry, the sun as she dies, recognize the urgency, uncover your eyes
When i turn on the lights, she vanishes high, and so that i can feel her essence in the air
Acknowledge the night stalker, and regard there is a hunter, hunting your mom she takes from the slumber
Summer ain't as hot as you think, more than the child, that wears the target for your teeth to sink

This world is a vampire, she eats her kids, let's hide the bodies under the bridge
This world is a vampire, she eats her kids, let's hide the bodies under the bridge
This country's a vampire, she eats her kids, let's hide the bodies under the bridge
This city's a vampire, she eats her kids, let's hide the bodies under the bridge

She lurks in the alleys, with a wrong reality
Allegiance, and honor, keep it all in the family
Consumes the young, the blind, deaf, and the dumb
Drains the vein, and puts them under the thumb
She's on the television, celebrate the status quo
Energy to push mute on the remote control
Break the beat, shatter the measures into pieces
All i've left is the breath, and the world i've put to pieces
It's difficult, to figure out who to fear, gettin older by the minute, younger by the year
Will the hunger disappear, metabolism slow, world domination is the goal
Now let's gather the kids, and take em out to the styx, teach em all how to live
Come, take my hand and walk with me, before the vampires lock down the twin cities

This world is a vampire, she eats her kids, let's hide the bodies under the bridge
This world is a vampire, she eats her kids, let's hide the bodies under the bridge
This country's is a vampire, she eats her kids, let's hide the bodies under the bridge
This city's is a vampire, she eats her kids, let's hide the bodies under the bridge

Through the mud of the evening, she trudges
The name, the blood is tainted with traces of lovers
From up above, truth watches in bewilderment
Comtemplating, how he isn't really feelin it
Just another chapter of another movie picture
Another rapertoire, lookin for a new elixir
Well here she goes, even when she has to climb
Out the window, out of sight, out of mind
Look out for me below, because i've never been on top of nothin
Other than a stove, inside a pot of water bubblin and boilin
Between the puzzle and poison, two games in the same toybin
But when my time comes, you better beat the drums
And aim the guns at the ones that eat the young
If we let her, she'll do whatever takes to survive
You don't stop till you take her life

[guruilla]

Breakthrough
The eFits of the Podesta Brothers Were INTENTIONALLY Made to Rat on Them for Child Abduction (v/pizzagate)
3 hours LegionWill

Let me introduce you to a technique called parallel construction:

Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel—or separate— "evidentiary" basis for a criminal investigation in order to conceal how the investigation actually began.

An example of parallel construction would be if your cell phone is unlawfully tapped to track your activity and whereabouts at a time, t, during which you committed a crime. Because this is an unlawful means by which to link you to the crime you committed at t, it would not be admissible in a criminal court proceeding. Thus, a separate (lawful, and thereby admissible) chain of evidence would be developed to show the court that at t you committed the crime. Both evidentiary paths lead to the same conclusion, but only one can be used to show that you committed the crime.

On the basis of strong inductive evidence, it is virtually certain that the Podesta brothers are involved in child abduction, and that the eFits are an example of parallel construction. There are three obviously shady features of the official "eFit story" worth keeping in mind:

1. The eFits were supressed for five years.
2. The witness testimony they were based on is dubious.
3. The private investigation company that helped produce the eFits is being hunted by the Clinton-appointed DOJ.

What likely occurred is this: John and Tony were being monitored unlawfully, possibly by the NSA, or some other intelligence actor. Whoever found out what they did, wanted to leak the truth to the world, but could not reveal the means by which they found out. Thus they created the eFits as parallel evidence. That is why we now have the eFits.

It is a leak. And someone on the inside wants to help bring down this organized human trafficking syndicate. The Podestas might be key players in the syndicate. Outing them would create a domino effect.

It is a multi-billion dollar human trafficking red market operated by international regimes and cartels. Pedophilia, organ harvesting, blood storage, forced prostitution, psychiatric and pharmacological experimentation, sextortion blackmail, human donations, and yes sadistic torture for fun -- you name it -- that's what these children are put through.

It needs to be brought down efficiently while preserving continuity of government, otherwise there would be a national security crisis and multiple declarations of war.

What is our role in this? To spread the information as widely as possible. We are conditioning the public for the forthcoming crash landing. It will be talked about for the next 100 years or more.

Yes, all of the available evidence indicates quite strongly that the Podesta brothers are involved. Examine it for yourself: http://livingresistance.com/2016/11/18/ ... -analysis/

Another way you can tell it is a leak: the mole is placed on the opposite side of Tony Podesta's face to create a modicum of error for the sake of maintaining plausible deniability.

To the person or persons helping us from the inside, you are epic heroes. Generations will honor you, should you ever come forward publicly. Sorry to explicate your methods like this, but you have to understand we are being bombarded by propaganda calling us "fake news," so we have to double-down a bit

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1456741

[Jerky]

This isn't a "breakthrough", it's evidence of a mental breakdown. And the only thing we can be "virtually certain" of is that your baby-eating fetish is a clear example of wishful thinking and repressed perversion on your part.

"Oh, it's so terrible what they're doing to the babies (heavy breathing) TELL ME MORE! DON'T STOP NOW! UUUGHHH!!!"

J.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Has anyone anywhere bothered to see if there are any press accounts of Obama hosting a hot dog and pizza dinner, for both of which Chicago is rather famous?

Obama does throw pizza parties that literally involve actual pizza. Stratfor emails wouldn't be wouldn't be weird if not for "assume we are using the same channels?" and "If we get the same "waitresses," I'm all for it!!!"

The most likely explanation is that they're in the office bitching about Obama and remembering this story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... pizza.html

Obamas fly in chef 860 miles... just to make pizza

10 April 2009

When you're the president of the United States, only the best pizza will do - even if that means flying a chef 860 miles.
Chris Sommers, 33, jetted into Washington from St Louis, Missouri, on Thursday with a suitcase of dough, cheese and pans to to prepare food for the Obamas and their staff.

Timeline fits.

From: Don Kuykendall [mailto:kuykendall@stratfor.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:59 PM
To: 'stratforaustin'
Subject: Get ready for "Chicago Hot Dog Friday"
To celebrate all you hot dogs out there. Aaric, you can participate as
well!

Don R. Kuykendall
President
STRATFOR

[Wombaticus Rex]

And the only thing we can be "virtually certain" of is that your baby-eating fetish is a clear example of wishful thinking and repressed perversion on your part.

That's at least a week, right?

[mentalgongfu2]

I dunno, it follows the same logic as some of the Podesta "evidence," but I'm admittedly biased and thankfully not in charge of such things. Maybe a stern warning?

[Wombaticus Rex]

I dunno, it follows the same logic as some of the Podesta "evidence," but I'm admittedly biased and thankfully not in charge of such things. Maybe a stern warning?

A fair point, and a koan to consider: this thread would be locked and Fire Pit'ted if one of you admitted you were John Podesta.

[mentalgongfu2]

I said I was out of this thread. I guess I lied. While I certainly don't doubt the existence of human trafficking groups and perps engaged in deviant behavior tied to people with power and money, and will admit some of the wikileaks emails sure sound like code (ie the handkerchief with pizzza related map or some such), I am astounded by the how the flimsiest of circumstaintial, speculative, assumptive, 6-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon style associations are being proclaimed not just 'evidence,' but 'smoking guns.'

That's my honest assessment, and I don't cotton to the accusasation that people who can't see the supposed obviousness are blind. I've twice read all 40-some pages of this thread, and I think the evidence is lacking and many are playing the jump to conclusions game.

Anyone, of course, is free to disagee and post the next so-called breakthrough which consists of a new theory based on questionable assumptions. Perhaps some of us just have a higher standard of evidence.

Myself, I don't consider a google search an "investigation," but if I did, I would say that my recent investigation uncovered the origins and context of the slowed-down Mary Kate and Ashley Olson pizza song posted upthread, which I will share below. It doesn't really prove anything, but context is important. BtW, One can also find creepy sounding versions of all sorts of slowed down songs, from Elmo and Reading Rainbow, to Justin bieber and a haunting version 'Jolene' by Dolly Parton.

YouTube clip of the week: ‘Mary-Kate & Ashley Olsen – Gimme Pizza Song (Slowed Down)’
Maranda Loughlin Oct 9, 2013

Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen – Gimme Pizza Song (Slowed Down)

This is a 3:29 video of your favorite childhood twins in the 1995 movie, “You’re Invited to Mary-Kate and Ashley’s Sleepover Party.” The voices of the twins and their friends are replaced by a creepy group of men, and the pizza-topping scene is made into a music video.

0:00 The twins walk in the scene wearing matching purple shirts and carrying trays of Chinese take out boxes. The twins are the perfect party hosts to their friends Vanessa, Cara and Brighton.

0:10 Cara, the friend with the pixie cut, is obviously anxious to get this party started as she begins: “I think we are just about ready…” Then, one of the twin’s (because no one can tell them apart) eyes grow large as she finishes Cara’s sentence: “…To build the perfect pizza.”

0:16 The pizza rap ensues: Do the pizza/ ah-ah-ah/ P-I-Z-Z-A/ Do the pizza…

0:27 Finally Vanessa is put into the spotlight as she back up sings “Um, did I happen to say?”

0:31 The twins reiterate that they want pizza.

0:38 Mary-Kate and Ashley’s groupies dance in front of a large cheese pizza. Then, the camera focuses on Vanessa where she raps with a fried chicken leg: “Now set down the pizza and bring me some chicken…”

0:51 The group interrupts Vanessa: “throw it on top, and make it finger-lickin’/ guacamole/ meatballs/ whip cream pouring like waterfalls/ here’s a little sauce to make it hot.”

1:06 Finally Vanessa comes back, “here’s a little ice-cream to hit the spot.”

1:24 The girls continue to sing. Instead of being in front of a cheese pizza, the pizza is now covered in fish, fried chicken and ice-cream. It is their “pizza pie.”

1:43 The girls come together and sing the next verse: “get your motors running ‘cause here we go/ chocolate sauce, spreading it slow/ Oreos, marshmallows, caramel coconut creme.”

2:01 Mary-Kate or Ashley makes a super excited face with pursed lips and wide eyes. She nods her agreement with all the candy toppings.

2:05 Then things get weird: ”chicken tongue/ google-y eye balls”

2:08 The pixie cut pipes up: “I’m going to scream!”

2:17 “Batters up, catcher’s ready/ 1-2-3-4-5… Spaghetti/ Pasta… put it in the pizza/ Fish sticks… put it in the pizza/ Ketchup… put it in the pizza/

2:37 Mary-Kate/Ashley: “Meatloaf…”

2:39 The group is very weary about the meatloaf. But the pixie cut, Cara, is the go-getter of the group, and ready to get weird: “Ehh, put it in the pizza!”

2:55 Vanessa suggests adding tacos to the pizza pie. And the group cheers in unison: “Olé!”

3:07 The video is coming to the end, and Brighton might be feeling a little bit left out. She brings up the idea to call their group “the twins of gourmet.” Even though she is not a twin.

3:29 The video ends and a pizza is fully ruined.

arts@

dailynebraskan.com

http://www.dailynebraskan.com/arts_and_entertainment/youtube-clip-of-the-week-mary-kate-ashley-olsen-gimme/article_ed8cf990-308b-11e3-9c32-001a4bcf6878.html

[Agent Orange Cooper]

This isn't a "breakthrough", it's evidence of a mental breakdown. And the only thing we can be "virtually certain" of is that your baby-eating fetish is a clear example of wishful thinking and repressed perversion on your part.

"Oh, it's so terrible what they're doing to the babies (heavy breathing) TELL ME MORE! DON'T STOP NOW! UUUGHHH!!!"

J.

how is this kind of post allowed here?

edit: oh I see what happened now... yeah. at least.

[divideandconquer]

I am astounded by the how the flimsiest of circumstantial, speculative, assumptive, 6-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon style associations are being proclaimed not just 'evidence,' but 'smoking guns.'

Really? The point of an investigation is to follow clues that lead to proof and in this case, clues abound, yet authorities do nothing but provide cover and mock those who question anything about this case.

Research, document, archive, connect the dots...

Unfortunately, the general public lacks the resources, organization, professionalism, legal protection, etc., that's taken for granted during a formal investigation, and it's very hard to create a repository of evidence when the powers that be have ultimate control to delete, shut down, etc. Not only that, in a formal or official investigation, they keep certain evidence to themselves for good reason, not to tip off the perpetrators. Here, every time someone finds something, they immediately post it, giving Comet Pizza, and whoever else, the opportunity to eliminate, cover up, create "credible" excuses. This may be one of the reasons the powers that be do not shut down investigation into pizzagate completely, for instance, allowing the lesser known voat to replace reddit.

"There is a difference between what is required to prove guilt in a criminal case and what is required to show probable cause for arrest and search." (Brinegar v. U.S.)

"Innocence of the charge is largely irrelevant to [the question of the existence of probable cause]. The Constitution does not guarantee that only the guilty will be arrested." (Baker v. McCollum)

Granted, there are "no bodies" here but you have to consider that babies born outside the system can vanish without a trace because, officially, they do not exist. Not to mention, we know that some parents are involved in Satanic ritual abuse and--for whatever sick reason-- sell their own children, allow their children to be used as sexual playthings, so we're left with a mountain, of what you call "flimsiest of circumstantial, speculative, assumptive, 6-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon style associations"--FBI identified pedophile symbols, galore; deeply disturbing pics with children that Alefantis, Podesta, ect., use in their communication; adults being enticed to dinner parties to swim with underage children and/or children referred to as entertainment at what appears to be adult centered events; prior evidence of basement and even possible tunnels (pictures of digging at Comet) that was denied; connections to known pedophiles; powerful foundations linked to international human trafficking rings, etc.--not to mention, the the context: institutional child abuse/child trafficking at the highest levels.

Normally quite a bit of context and explanation is required to develop an understanding of Pizzagate, but I thought RI would be the exception.

[guruilla]

I said I was out of this thread. I guess I lied. While I certainly don't doubt the existence of human trafficking groups and perps engaged in deviant behavior tied to people with power and money, and will admit some of the wikileaks emails sure sound like code (ie the handkerchief with pizzza related map or some such), I am astounded by the how the flimsiest of circumstaintial, speculative, assumptive, 6-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon style associations are being proclaimed not just 'evidence,' but 'smoking guns.'

That's my honest assessment, and I don't cotton to the accusasation that people who can't see the supposed obviousness are blind. I've twice read all 40-some pages of this thread, and I think the evidence is lacking and many are playing the jump to conclusions game.

Anyone, of course, is free to disagee and post the next so-called breakthrough which consists of a new theory based on questionable assumptions. Perhaps some of us just have a higher standard of evidence.

Myself, I don't consider a google search an "investigation," but if I did, I would say that my recent investigation uncovered the origins and context of the slowed-down Mary Kate and Ashley Olson pizza song posted upthread, which I will share below. It doesn't really prove anything, but context is important. BtW, One can also find creepy sounding versions of all sorts of slowed down songs, from Elmo and Reading Rainbow, to Justin bieber and a haunting version 'Jolene' by Dolly Parton.

YouTube clip of the week: ‘Mary-Kate & Ashley Olsen – Gimme Pizza Song (Slowed Down)’
Maranda Loughlin Oct 9, 2013

Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen – Gimme Pizza Song (Slowed Down)

This is a 3:29 video of your favorite childhood twins in the 1995 movie, “You’re Invited to Mary-Kate and Ashley’s Sleepover Party.” The voices of the twins and their friends are replaced by a creepy group of men, and the pizza-topping scene is made into a music video.

http://www.dailynebraskan.com/arts_and_entertainment/youtube-clip-of-the-week-mary-kate-ashley-olsen-gimme/article_ed8cf990-308b-11e3-9c32-001a4bcf6878.html

Part of the confusion is not just around what constitutes evidence but due to the assumption that we agree on evidence of what.

What's the Pizza video evidence of? Essentially something weird and vaguely pedophiliac around Pizza that goes back a long time, that's about it. It's an artifact; the comments at the normal speed YT video are also evidence, of people's current viewpoints; this thread is evidence of that too. To the degree that Pizzagate is a psy-op (however much it also points to true crimes), even bogus evidence is also evidence. I don't think it's entirely necessary to know which is which in order to share it, unlike what some people here are trying to enforce.

Since most people at RI seem to align with the social justice warrior ethos, the assumption is that all evidence should & must lead to a conviction, otherwise it's slanderous at best, a witch hunt at worst. Social justice is not my priority or even much of an interest (mainly because I don't think there is such a thing), so that makes for a lot of misunderstanding and rancor.

Is the video from “You’re Invited to Mary-Kate and Ashley’s Sleepover Party”? I was told it was "Full House," hence the links to the two celeb click bait sites; the intention there was to indicate entertainment culture goings-on similar to what we're all familiar with from Savile's BBC, so that anyone who wanted to follow up those leads could do so. Once again, the response was RI-prime snark. Obviously, I need to explain and contextualize all evidence (and "evidence") and not keep presuming people will stop to understand, or ask, when they can just go into snark mode, which is so much more fun, I guess...

Same with the voat-"breakthrough": it provides a reasonable (IMO) new interpretation of the Podesta-McCann link that potentially reconciles the contradictions there.

I want to write as little as possible at RI because I'm tired of getting snarked endlessly, it just makes the experience not-enjoyable; so using this thread a bit more like a data dump, since I don't see much by way of discussion happening anyway.

how is this kind of post allowed here?

AOC: I don't know either how that sort of malicious trolling is allowed to go on for so long at RI, or why. Maybe to keep the rest of us aware of the stakes? It's unfortunate, because of mimesis: it sets a tone and others tend to match it, if only to avoid being on the receiving end of it.

Normally quite a bit of context and explanation is required to develop an understanding of Pizzagate, but I thought RI would be the exception.

The times they are a-changing.

[Luther Blissett]

A group of women in my circle of friends discovered that slowed down "Gimme Pizza" song like a decade ago, the actual time it went viral. It became an inside joke for them, my partner included. I have been to many a party where women sing "P-I-Z-Z-A" in low warbly voices in order to elicit laughs. I'm also pretty sure they're not pedophiles, they just think funny voices are funny.