US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operatives

[seemslikeadream]

I don't know, seemslikeadream. Maybe the US election drove me mad or something similar happened but in a different direction. What a strange year was 2016!

You don't know if you are accusing me of protecting the CIA?

Sounded like you were

I just need clarification of that if you please

the U.S. election made me pay more attention to what is happening

and I am going to watch the hearings

Crappy New Year

Treason's Greetings

[kool maudit]

The Jason Easley, Slate and Business Insider articles you shared were written from a perspective that implied (witness Easley's headline!) that US citizens might do well to oppose plans to cut the CIA.

The CIA, of course, has rarely been a darling of these quarters, but as I said... funny ol' year.

Thank you for the "Crappy New Year" and "Treasons Greetings" though; it is nice to know that despite your obvious post-ballot discombobulation, you retain that sort of biting wit that withers those who might tease you to their frozen, Russian cores.

Brr!

[seemslikeadream]

no they were posted to document what was happening


Trump/Gen Flynn want to gut the CIA ...why would that be?

Saturday Night Massacre?

Why do you think Gen. Flynn wants to "overhaul" the CIA?

Why do you think Gen. Flynn loves fake news?

Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn installed a secret internet connection into his office at the Pentagon even though it was "forbidden," according to a profile in The New Yorker by Dana Priest.

The network connection was among other rules the former chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency broke because he found them to be "stupid," including sometimes sneaking out of a CIA station in Iraq without authorization and sharing classified information with NATO allies without approval, according to The New Yorker.

Maybe his dealings with Russia may come out?

Maybe Trump's dealing with Russia may come out?
this is about people spreading the LIES that the CIA was involved in the faking of the NIGER DOCUMENTS

if you insist on continuing to help spread those lies by falsely accusing me be my guest or fucking answer my question outright

your obvious post-ballot discombobulation

your false.... demeaning....character assassination observation

I am now more than ever committed to getting to the truth no matter how many people here try and stop me by OP character assassination....stalking....personal attacks ...general harassment

I've been posting about the shit the CIA has done over the years for 15 years on the internet

I've been following and documenting the Yellowcake since 2005


I implore you to find ONE post to the contray.....one post where I was a cheerleader for the CIA ...as I said before...this is about lies being told about how the Iraq War got started and who sold/counterfeited those lies

I have outlasted solace's disgusting accusations here...I will outlast yours....you can take the road of solace and look up every single post I have made on the net probably 70,000 by now...find some proof of your snide remarks (solace could not) or you can just stop..your choice.

btw how well did you know Mr. Cowboy?




In an explosive series of articles appearing this week in the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, investigative reporters Carlo Bonini and Giuseppe d'Avanzo reveal how Niccolo Pollari, chief of Italy's military intelligence service, known as SISMI, brought the Niger yellowcake story directly to the White House after his insistent overtures had been rejected by the Central Intelligence Agency in 2001 and 2002



yours truly

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[JackRiddler]

no they were posted to document what was happening

Trump/Gen Flynn want to gut the CIA ...why would that be?

The last one who actually cut back on the CIA was Carter, and that was a good thing.

There is no chance that this will happen now, with the present Congress. This is one case of Trump talking out his tweeting asshole. It will be done in a few weeks, and the CIA and the networks operating out of it will continue engaging in massive criminality worldwide.

The CIA may have rejected the Niger yellowcake forgery, but Tenet was the one who told Bush that proving WMD in Iraq would be a "slam-dunk case."

I can accept or at least sympathize with a lot of lesser-evilist thinking regarding the Kayfabe Hitler, the man who actually performs an American fascist dictator as his professional wrestling persona, brings loads of real fascist thinking into the performance, and is bringing real fascists into his administration. This will be a fight, and it is urgent. I draw the line at endorsements of the CIA or whoever there is currently confabulating the "Russian" angle on the recent election, which requires nonsensical premises, is D.O.A. on the "evidence," encourages the new Cold War, and would present a horror backed by 60 million voters as the result of some kind of magical foreign conspiracy. That way lies total distraction from the real fight against a real American threat.

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[seemslikeadream]

I agree with everything you said Jack

It is just that there are people here that seem to not know or have forgotten who forged those docs...and the Trump crew who keep repeating the lie that it was the CIA. And seem to have no memory of Valerie Plame. And that Gen. Flynn is best buddy's with Ledeen. Flynn is a nightmare promoting all kinds of fake news like Pizzagate. I'm not going to let that crap go unchallenged since there are a few Trumpettes posting here.

Of course I am no fan of the CIA but let's keep the facts straight and not let Trumps tweets become reality here

It seems by this morning Trump is changing his story again about how much he loves Assange and the denying plans to shake up the CIA.

I see Gen. Flynn/Ledeen pulling the same shit over again to start another war somewhere else/Iran. After all isn't that the end game for the neo cons?


and some people think they have left the White House

Propaganda
THE WAR THEY WANTED, THE LIES THEY NEEDED

To Michael Ledeen, however, Iran’s ascendancy is just one more reason to expand the Iraq war to the “terror masters” of the Middle East. “I keep saying it over and over again to the point where I myself am bored,” he says. “I have been screaming ‘Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran’ for five years. [Those in the Bush administration] don’t have an Iran policy. Still don’t have one. They haven’t done fuck-all.”
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2006/07/yellowcake200607

There is one thing I know for sure if Trump's lips are moving or his tiny fingers are tweeting he is lying

[JackRiddler]

It seems by this morning Trump is changing his story again about how much he loves Assange and the denying plans to shake up the CIA.

No surprise whatsoever.

And agreed on all points.

This happy concordance with Russia bullshit is going to last about as long as it takes for the Congress to vote to kill the Iran deal and for Trump to figure out that Iran and Russia are allies (someone will explain this to him and he'll tweet about the discovery).

Nothing but neocons running his foreign policy positions - and the worst ones, the ones that Bush regime had actually kept on the sidelines.

Anyone who couldn't figure out the motherfucker was about more war from his consistent statements to that effect, and from all the aircraft carriers in his goddamn advertisements, and anyone who can't figure out that this is a right-wing Republican government with a small team of NY-NJ casino gangster elements occupying the White House and running the reality TV side of the operation is... well, superfluous to say the least!

Patsies patsies patsies, you Trumpets. And no, I don't want to be gentle and diplomatic with you and your whiteguy blindness to these bullying misogynistic racist sacks of shit.

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[seemslikeadream]

reporting says

Hacks also targeted White House and State Dept. and Joint Chiefs

[JackRiddler]

Oh my god, the Russians were doing SPYING on the U.S. government? No way!!! Shocked, shocked!

[seemslikeadream]

thanks for not being mean to me

I know the pizza has probably taken up all the mean today




ok how about this?


Intel report says US identifies go-betweens who gave emails to WikiLeaks
http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-russi ... NKBN14P2NK



Trump in 2010: WikiLeaks 'disgraceful,' there 'should be like death penalty or something'


Sources: Trump will ask Congress, not Mexico, to pay for border wall

[seemslikeadream]

Trump's getting briefed today. Will he agree with the folks here and not believe a word they are telling him?

And then when will the CIA leak via The Washington Post that Trump likes his pizza with boiled potatoes and cabbage toppings?



Public Intel. report coming out today also

Circus of Liars: How Trump & GOP are Twisted into Pretzels over Putin Hack
By Juan Cole | Jan. 6, 2017 |

By Juan Cole | (Informed Comment) | – –
Donald J. Trump has picked another fight with the elders of his own Republican Party, over whether Russia engaged in hacking aimed at influencing the US election. Trump has maintained that it is impossible to trace hacking attempts, that it isn’t clear who was behind them, and that he knows a lot about hacking and knows things about these incidents that the rest of us do not know, which he would reveal last Tuesday or Wednesday (he didn’t).
At one point, in Trump’s assault on the case for Russian hacking being presented by the CIA, he cited statements of Julian Assange of Wikileaks:

This reference to Assange, who published Chelsea Manning’s copied State Department cables and who published emails of the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, infuriated official Washington, who would love to render Assange from the Ecuadoran embassy in London and execute him by firing squad.
At today’s Senate hearings on the Russian hacking, Sen. John McCain asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper whether Assange has any credibility. Clapper replied by smearing Assange with reference to the complicated and obscure Swedish sex charges against him, which actually do not speak to Assange’s credibility on whether the Russians passed him hacked emails. This ad hominem logical fallacy is typical of the sneaky and duplicitous way Clapper operates.
McCain also accused Assange of putting the lives of US intelligence professionals and their assets in danger. But McCain did not move to impeach former Bush vice president Dick Cheney, who outed CIA field officer Valerie Plame to punish her for her husband’s having revealed the emptiness of the WMD case for the Bush-Cheney illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.
Trump was wounded by the charges that he was supporting Assange, and replied, essentially, that retweets are not endorsements.

All twitter users consider such hedging to be disingenuous; why retweet something if you deeply disagree with it?
The entire circus was marked by outlandish self-contradiction and clownish hypocrisy.
For instance, Sen. McCain and other national security Republicans have a longstanding animus against the Putin government and so are eager to accept the Clapper case that Russia attempted to interfere in the US election.
But McCain and the other hawkish Republicans don’t want to follow their position to its logical conclusion, which is that Putin intervened to give us a Trump presidency.
If Russia did some hacking and leaking to hurt the Democrats, but did not succeed in having a big impact on the election outcome, then why is the issue so important? The Russians were ineffectual.
As for foreign hacking and spying on the US election, James Clapper for a long time was personally listening into German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s private cell phone.
Moreover, Clapper was listening in to millions Americans on American soil without a warrant, a gross violation of the fourth Amendment of the Constitution, which promises us privacy from government prying with regard to our mail and personal effects unless law enforcement can convince a judge that we are engaged in a specified crime. For all we know, US officials privy to this illegal form of wiretapping could have used the information for insider trading or self-aggrandizement or to smear politicians they didn’t like or even to affect the outcome of elections. There isn’t really any oversight over this unconstitutional activity of the Federal government, and even sitting senators who knew about it such as Ron Wyden were afraid to tell the public lest they be arrested for revealing classified information (almost everything in Washington is classified as soon as it is written down).
When Clapper was asked in Senate testimony whether US intelligence was spying on the American people, he denied it. “No,” he said.
Ron Wyden: “DNI Clapper tells Wyden the NSA does not collect data on millions of Americans”

It was the lie of our new century, the Big Lie, the ultimate Whopper.
The US NSA hacked the whole world for many years until Ed Snowden blew the whistle on them. And that was when the full extent of Clapper’s mendaciousness became clear. He should have been held in contempt of Congress. He should have been fired. But no. He got away with it.
It is extremely unclear why anyone should believe anything this proven and professional liar says.
Then Sen. Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader, was asked about Trump’s tweet questioning the Russia hacking narrative. He replied that Trump was unwise to take on the intelligence community, since they had six ways to Sunday to get back at you.
So Schumer seems to have been celebrating that we are no longer a democracy, but that even an elected president has to defer to the intelligence establishment in Washington or else must fear that they will play dirty tricks on him and undermine him.
Shouldn’t the Democratic Party senate minority leader be standing for democratic values, not advising the president to shut up if he knows what’s good for him?
So to conclude, this is a sorry spectacle. Yes, Putin is a thug who should not have unilaterally annexed Crimea, and so created a European crisis that has yet to be resolved. But yes, the US has acted thuggishly– the unprovoked and monstrous invasion of Iraq is a recent example– and US aggressiveness toward Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union bears some of the blame for Russia’s bullying insecurity. And yes, Russia likely engaged in hacking during the US election and hoped to tilt the playing field toward Trump; but they likely failed to have any significant effect on the outcome. And yes, Clapper and other US intelligence officials have hacked everybody and his brother both abroad and inside the US, so they are hardly morally superior to Putin.
Now we have a food fight full of ignorance and hypocrisy or both, in which the Washington Establishment professes itself shocked, shocked that any hacking of one country by another could have gone on. Trump has continued his creepy bromance with the Kremlin and wants to get his information from any source that agrees with his prejudices. The Democrats have taken advantage of the story to paint Trump as a Manchurian candidate, and some of them seem to delight in the idea that Trump may provoke the CIA to do to him what Oliver Stone thinks it did to JFK.
Nobody and nothing here to admire.
http://www.juancole.com/2017/01/circus- ... tzels.html

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[Rory]

The CIA been sayin Putin what done it by his own self.

*CASE CLOSED*

[seemslikeadream]

link please

but check with Nordic first to find out if it is acceptable to him

[tapitsbo]

The CIA been sayin Putin what done it by his own self.

*CASE CLOSED*

"It"?

"Election hacking" means "Podesta hacking" anyways.

[Rory]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /96236536/

"We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."

[seemslikeadream]

sorry I don't think that USA today is an acceptable source as far as Nordic is concerned and we all must live by his rules now

but even so it doesn't not say Putty did it all by his lonesome

was that just your creative license?