"Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby chump » Mon May 16, 2016 6:07 pm

I just noticed that Jerky posted an excellent transcript on this not to missed Metanoia, sort of a sequel to Psywar, documentary describing how military, intelligence, broadcast, and entertainment industries have co-ordinated the sophisticated psy-ops that have driven our society for seventy or eighty years years or so.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_Principle

The Power Principle is a non-profit documentary movie directed by Scott Noble and released online for free. The film makers explore how, in their view, the US establishment promotes a culture of fear in order to secure increased military expenses, year after year. The film claims the US government and the military-industrial complex, together with the US media developed a powerful propaganda machinery (inspired in good part from Nazi propaganda) in order to scare and convince the public that US invasions like those in Dominican Republic (1965), Grenada (1983), US support for brutal mass-killings, terror campaigns like those in Guatemala (1954), Indonesia (1965), El Salvador (1979), US-designed assassination plots like those in Nicaragua (1981) and in huge parts of Latin America (Operation Condor) and support for overthrowing democratically elected governments like those in Brazil (1964) and Chile (1973) were needed in order to prevent the spread of communism, using mainly the domino theory.

The movie also points at the help provided by the Western countries to fascist regimes in order to counter movements supporting workers rights (socialism, communism, anarchy). The fascism is presented as an instrument in the hands of the plutocracy for oppressing and enslaving the working class.
The meaning of the movie's title, "The power principle" is revealed as the Mafia principle, which is "not allowing disobedience" - in this case not allowing the countries in the developing world to have governments that try to improve the life of the many.
The movie traces the roots of the US establishment (both Republican and Democrat parties) mindset into the doctrine of Edward Bernays, pioneer in the field of public relations and propaganda, who believed the democracy is hard to handle and people are just too stupid to govern themselves in democracy, so there is a need of an elite, public guardians who manage the society and a there is a need of public relation practitioners who would be professionals in working for the government for managing, manipulating the public and engineering consent.

The film is split into three parts: "Empire", "Propaganda" and "Apocalypse".

The film features interviews with:

Nafeez Ahmed, British investigative journalist

John Perkins, American author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

James Petras, Bartle Professor (Emeritus) of Sociology at Binghamton University in Binghamton, New York

Marcia Esparza, from Historical Memory Project

Peter Linebaugh, American Marxist historian

Noam Chomsky, American linguist and political commentator

Graeme MacQueen, retired professor of religious studies at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario

Adam Tomlinson, from National Public Radio (UK)[1]

Christopher Simpson, professor of Journalism at School of Communication, American University, Washington D.C., author of Science of Coercion

Howard Zinn, American historian

Nancy Snow, professor of philosophy at Marquette University

Michael John Parenti, American political scientist

William I. Robinson, American professor of sociology at the University of California, Santa Barbara

John Stauber, American progressive writer

Morris Berman, American historian and social critic, author of Dark Ages America

William Blum, American author, Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower

Stanislav Yevgrafovich Petrov, retired lieutenant colonel of the Soviet Air Defence Forces

Sara Flounders, American political writer

Michael Albert, American activist

The movies also includes anti-establishment speeches of:

Naomi Klein, Canadian author of The Shock Doctrine
Ralph McGehee, former CIA officer
Philip Agee, former CIA officer and writer
John Stockwell, former CIA officer
Thomas P.M. Barnett, American military geostrategist


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Noam Chomski defines the “free market system” as a system in which public funds are channeled toward research and development under the pretext that it is defend ourselves. "Costs and risks are socialized - that’s for the public, profit is privatized. That’s a very convenient system, and it’s called the free market."


“The history of Haiti is the history of the world’s capitalist system. If you study what’s happened to Haiti, then you’ve studied the history of humanity for the last five hundred years…”
- William I. Robinson, Editor, Critical Globalization Stiudies


“Scare the hell out of the American people.”
- Senator Arthur Vandenberg’s advice to President Tuman in 1947


“Our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear”
- General Douglas MacArthur


1938 War of the Worlds psyop is described as using late breaking updates, which the audience has been conditioned to associated with important news. It was studied extensively to reproduce the fear effect again and again and again and again.



“A good government can no more exist without propaganda than good propaganda without a good government.”
- Joseph Goebbels


“(Time magazine will ) exert upon the world the full impact of our influence for such purposes as we see fit, and by such measures as we see fit.”
- Henry Luce, (Time founder and member of S&B’s)



Weltaunshaunskrieg is German, and it means "World View Warfare". The activist who were most committed to Nazi principles would confront other parts of society and say, You have the wrong worldview. So, this world view warfare was a way in which they went about consolidating their whole in German society, in nazifying universities, in nazifying companies, or cultural institutions, or churches. That was world view warfare. You could call it propaganda, but it wasn't propaganda in the narrow sense of the term - like simply radio broadcasts or something... This is not just publicity. This is not just persuasion in the sense what somebody on the radio has to say. This is the whole range of techniques, from religious or pseudo-religious techniques, or evangelism, to exploiting by the psychology of fear, to exploiting tensions between races and ethnic groups, use of terror, use of violence... It is a whole range of applied manipulation of people...

... When the war did break out between Nazi Germany and the Unted States, Wild Bill Donovan, who was a Wall Street guy and great friends with the President... looked at what the Nazis were doing with this World View Warfare, and he believed that it was successful, and so he tried to come up with an American version of the same sort of thing... (And while Nazi German and American propaganda) are not the same thing, they are two approaches to a similiar problem...



It is essential to release humanity from the false fixations of yesterday, which seem now to bind it to a rationale of action leading only to extinction.
- R. Buckminster Fuller





More of the same... Archival video and an interpretation of history we rarely see.


https://youtu.be/gohal9CW7t0


"I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half."

- Jay Gould, American railroad developer, 19th C


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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby MinM » Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:58 pm

@ForTheWin

French TV's visual effects mind-blowingly mimic teleportation at Euro 2016
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby MinM » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:27 am

@CNN

What was it really like to hunt down Saddam Hussein? Find out the inside story on #Declassified tomorrow night at 10

http://therightscoop.com/female-staffer ... z4CYVOrnxj
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:27 pm

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20+ years later* and the creation of fictional/embellished 'news events' continues in earnest. Indeed, it's become FAR more pervasive since the date of this OP.


Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:22 pm wrote:
JackRiddler » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:21 pm wrote:.

Elvis, your first 22 Nov post -- phenomenal work by Ames exposing Bellingcat.

Also, grateful to you for reproducing all those graphics here.

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Agreed. Ames' piece should not be surprising for anyone critically analyzing these events in the last ~2yrs.

While we may offer the benefit of the doubt that the historical citing/pasting (with minimal/no disclaimers, context, or caveats) of content from these hacks were inserted into RI threads, however ill-informed, as a means to offer a 'perspective' of events as they unfolded, I'd suggest that moving forward, ANY content by the following vermin should be flagged here as Blatant PROPAGANDA moving forward:

Bellingcat/Eliot Higgins
Michael Weiss
Aaron Zelin
Atlantic Council

They -- and others of their ilk -- are willing tools in the dissimenation of mis/disinformation, with devastating consequences to the lives of many.



*though in truth, this M.O. stretches back to the dawn of Wo/Man; once Wo/Man learned to etch drawings on a wall, they learned how to shape narratives, and more importantly, the impact such narratives have on the collective. Since those formative years, those with influence and control of modern means of communication have been manipulating narratives to push their sordid agendas, compounded by the increased lack of historical context, interest, and/or attention spans of the average human.
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:55 pm

but everything that comes out of the Kremlin is fact or so I have heard

Jeff in his infinite wisdom put down some rules that have served this place well for 14 years...people wanting to change those rules should take it up with him

only a few links were deemed unworthy ...that's the way it should stay

you are perfectly within your rights to link to RT and I am within my rights to link to BC without the name calling ...that's the way it is around here

Basta!


They -- and others of their ilk -- are willing tools in the dissimenation of mis/disinformation, with devastating consequences to the lives of many.


really .....good to know.....can I say "They -- and others of their ilk -- are willing tools in the dissimenation of mis/disinformation, with devastating consequences to the lives of many" about people that disagree with me? I would never do that...members here have the right to link to whatever under the rules and that is the way it should stay no matter what one or two members think

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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:06 pm

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but everything that comes out of the Kremlin is fact or so I have heard



Please cite anyone in this forum that has even suggested such a thing.


you are perfectly within your rights to link to RT and I am within my rights to link to BC without the name calling ...that's the way it is around here



The above comment, and others like it, do little else than demonstrate how embedded you are in these contrived narratives. I don't quote/link RT. This is not an "RT vs BC" thing (whatever that may mean to you).

Also, this is NOT a "SLAD" thing. This is about propagandists in media. You insist on inserting yourself -- and non-existent talking points -- into discussions.


I won't be replying further to this derailment.
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:08 pm

NO THIS IS NOT A SLAD THING THIS IS A BOARD THING

by Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:27 pm

While we may offer the benefit of the doubt that the historical citing/pasting (with minimal/no disclaimers, context, or caveats) of content from these hacks were inserted into RI threads, however ill-informed, as a means to offer a 'perspective' of events as they unfolded, I'd suggest that moving forward, ANY content by the following vermin should be flagged here as Blatant PROPAGANDA moving forward:
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:09 pm

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Yes. I stand by that quote. Thank you for bolding it. And it's a comment about activity in this board. Given your ubiquitous activity (and proclivity for pasting any/all articles that even hint at a narrative that may be construed as a "blow" to Trump) within this board, that comment you bolded will apply to you as well.
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:10 pm

THIS IS A BOARD THING

stop accusing members here of posting disfo...it is against the rules

The charge or insinuation of "disinfo agent" can almost never be proven, and poisons and often ends meaningful discussion. Therefore suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby Grizzly » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:11 pm

They are scrubbing the internet ... (most here) know this...
Image many of the recent links slad as well as others have posted are gone or scrubbed. My recent post about Deep insight into the world of corporate mercenaries
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41425 most of the links Ive tried to follow that slad offered aren't accessible any longer. Particularly:

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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:12 pm

that is why I post full articles
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:12 pm

seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:10 pm wrote:THIS IS A BOARD THING

stop accusing members here of posting disfo...it is against the rules

The charge or insinuation of "disinfo agent" can almost never be proven, and poisons and often ends meaningful discussion. Therefore suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.



but you (and a few others, including -- perhaps most egregiously -- one member currently suspended) HAVE posted *content that is deemed to be disinfo*. FACT.

Unwittingly - fine. But it's disinfo, regardless.


EDIT: added clarifying context in bold, between the asterisks. I am NOT, to be clear, calling a forum member here a 'disinfo agent' -- I can not speak to that. I am referring, instead, to CONTENT -- written/authored by disinfo agents -- reproduced in this forum.
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:13 pm

STOP IT

QUIT LYING ABOUT ME
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:56 pm

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I am not lying, and I referenced no forum member specifically in my initial comments upthread.

Certain members here have pasted content/articles by authors known to spread disinformation. Fact.

One can:

1. Avoid posting content by authors known to spread disinfo.
2. Apply appropriate disclaimers/caveats/context along with the posting.
3. Continue to paste such content here, as they have, but with the added awareness that others may call out the content as disinfo.
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Re: "Nothing is Real"; 'live' CNN coverage, 1991 Gulf

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:57 pm

who are you to decide

YOU WERE REFERRING TO RI MEMBERS

Certain members here have pasted content/articles by authors known to spread disinformation. Fact.


everyone here knows EXACTLY who you are talking about

cagey

yea maybe that could go another way but you are free to post whatever links you want and so am I under the rules that have been in place for 14 years
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