What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment?

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Haha. Chill out about this, bud. I don't care, but as I have explained is basically summed up in the analogy of the Dewey Decimal System as far as searching, I only wanted to head it off at the pass. You said you are in a sci-fi writing class and I thought you would like to bring a little bit more of that out. You got your help which is great and your class which is also great, but the drift, as you said, happened. The "threat" of locking it was to extol your use of the board for what you are truly searching for. You're filled with words and ideas and you want to express them. Again. . . That's it. Locking it would have been a help to you and would obviously be free to carry on. See, you asked a question and did not present a statement which is more searchable or even memorable. All you have to do is delete the "What's" and the question mark -- or hone it down to what you are really getting at. That's up to you.

The Theory that Says Trauma Induces Enlightenment

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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:03 pm

How about something like...

"Trauma and Enlightenment (e.g., Pizzagate and Vigilant Citizen)"?
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:50 pm

FourthBase » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:26 pm wrote:"a peculiar sort of erotica"

That's precisely what I mean. There's no way in hell you would be euphemizing Podesta's tastes if he were a Republican heavyweight. His interest in and shameless flaunting of (which raises the question of what he's not proud to show the world) art where murdered children are arranged as if by a serial killer (not one but two, in a corner where guests are invited to sit down and stare at these snuffed kids), an infant in diapers being menacingly pinched by a stranger (prominently featured in his main stairway, and produced by Anna Gaskell, if anyone here remembers her), naked teens (a series of photos adorning entire walls), and a floating decapitated corpse (by the prestigious Bourgeois but still a decapitated corpse all the same, positioned above where his family and friends and their children might eat a bowl of cereal) would be strong presumptive evidence that the Republican heavyweight is an evil, evil creep. But for a progressive like Podesta, the default is just that it's...peculiar. Because hey, you know plenty of progressives with tastes that dark and they're good people fighting the good fight so there must be an innocent explanation, right? Except your progressive friends with dark tastes aren't intimately connected with a president who frequently flew on a billionaire pedophile pimp's private jet. The ring supposedly operating from the basement at Comet is just one notorious part of the Pizzagate theory, the part people use to discredit the rest. It's like 9/11 conspiracy theories all being discredited by claiming they're all about the no-planes scenario. That would suck, right? Same thing.


How odd you locked onto my use of the phrase "a peculiar sort of erotica" and seem to have ignored all the reasons I raised to not politicize the matter of traumatic abuse and pedophilia. I also must share with you you now how outrageous it is for you to believe I would be more forgiving of such horrendous crimes if they were committed by a Democrat. Really, how dare you! Especially after I've explained to you why no one should politicize pedophiles or their repugnant abusive behaviors?

If you truly researched the history of pizzagate, you would know of its origin. We then acknowledged that such abuse occurs in all centers of power, but pizzagate was not real, but a meme created to derail Clinton's campaign for president.

Either reread our old threads or read the wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

Let me once again repeat my last line to you from my earlier comment. "Do not politicize abuse. We all know abusers belong to every party that exists. They're all bad people, no matter how high their perversion gets them."

Pizzagate was imaginary. Sex trafficking of children is not. We who rightfully saw pizzagate as nothing but sensational hype encouraged those who did not see it that way to keep digging to see if anything real and prosecutable would be learned about the real abusers that opperate throughout our world's centers of power, but we've heard nothing yet. Epstein was totally unrelated to pizzagate and no ties between the two have been alleged.

Please reread those threads. Pizzagate is a tired subject with nothing new from any of its believers anytime over the last three years.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:10 am

Epstein was totally unrelated to pizzagate and no ties between the two have been alleged.


Uh...no. Wrong.
Very, very, very wrong.

The loadbearing beam of all Pizzagate theorizing was Epstein. Bill Clinton was a frequent flyer on Epstein's Lolita Express. If Bill Clinton is an evil fucking child rapist, then let's see what his inner circle is like. Oh, look. His wife's campaign manager is really into cannibalism. And that guy's lobbyist brother really loves child snuff paintings, infant abuse art, naked teen photos, decapitated corpse sculpture, and cannibalism paintings (that's who lent the other brother the cannibal painting hanging in Hillary's HQ). Gee, that's really suspicious. And they both have standing invitations to join a dinner ritual with an occult performance artist who's also really into cannibalism. Weird. And the pizza place where kids gather to play ping pong and where one brother celebrates his birthday and where Hillary holds fundraisers has an Instagram with creepy injokes about murder and pedophilia and pictures of a little girl with her arms bound with tape to a table and they host all ages edgelord punk shows promoting murder and pedophilia and cannibalism and satanic mind control. What in the fuck. Hmm.

That shit is ALL REAL.
That shit is NOT IMAGINARY.

IF THEY WERE REPUBLICANS, you would immediately assume it's a new Franklin Scandal. If they were Republicans and the people who brought the scandal to everyone's attention in incoherent, antisocial ways were nihilistic trolls with a leftist bent, you would not even remotely be debunking the scandal as just a political hoax, because the facts of the case wouldn't change one fucking iota based on who's doing the dot-connecting.

Look, you fucked up. It's okay. It's not your fault. You ignored evidence of an elite pedophile ring because the people implicated had enlightened politics. Tribalism is natural. But here's your chance to reexamine the whole case with fresh, unbiased eyes. Even if only half the shit theorized about Pizzagate is true and the other half insane nonsense, that's still red meat for RigInt minds. If that dog won't hunt, won't bark, and refuses to even sniff the meat, then there's something fundamentally wrong with the dog, with the people who feel indifference or contempt for the obvious dot-connecting. Something is broken in their psyches. (And that's coming from me.)
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby cptmarginal » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:55 am

Except the Franklin Credit Union child abuse ring involved multiple identifiable victims and sworn testimony. As does Epstein/Maxwell. Also, I considered it a tremendous red flag (both currently and at the time) that public awareness of this supposed child abuse scandal was sparked just a few days before the election by the phony "FBI Agent Suspected In Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide" story.

Also, I am a big believer in the providers of security services - public and private. I think that there is a certain class of people that pay for security from various firms and that what they get in return is actual privacy for their parties or personal activities, without even the faintest glimmer of light being shone on any of it. That is the whole point of paying millions of dollars for this kind of security: that things should remain secret. Any number of Georgetown or NY private social clubs frequented by mil/intel leadership would make a far better choice for a place where the real Caligula shit might be found going down, in my opinion.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby cptmarginal » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:14 am

My earlier post in this thread about "pathei-mathos" and Satanism actually should be interpreted a bit differently than it might have seemed at first glance. That is to say: if you want to find people actually practicing the art and technology of trauma and dissociation on vulnerable people (with and without institutional support for their activities) then The Family and evangelical Christianity would be a good starting point. This is what Chris Knowles was saying when he posted here a few times, and I have come to agree more and more as time goes on. On an individual level creepy, stunted Christians are also generally the top demographic where I would expect to find monstrous cannibals or rapists operating. There have been scores of Fauchers over the years but comparatively fewer Maciels.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:17 am

cptmarginal » 27 Sep 2019 08:55 wrote:Except the Franklin Credit Union child abuse ring involved multiple identifiable victims and sworn testimony. As does Epstein/Maxwell.


"The loadbearing beam of all Pizzagate theorizing was Epstein."

Franklin didn't even involve Bush on multiple flight logs with Lawrence King and it didn't even involve Bush insiders with documented art fetishes about dead children, abused children, cannibalism, and the occult. Imagine how you'd feel if such Bush flight logs with King and such Bush insider artistic passions were discovered tomorrow. Hmm.

Also, I considered it a tremendous red flag (both currently and at the time) that public awareness of this supposed child abuse scandal was sparked just a few days before the election by the phony "FBI Agent Suspected In Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide" story.


Just like it wouldn't matter if the facts of Franklin had been first uncovered and disseminated by fucking KGB spies, it doesn't matter if the facts of Pizzagate were first uncovered and disseminated by Russians or fascists. Who fucking cares about the messenger. In fact, I'm especially interested in the worst things that each extreme has to say about the other, because there are truths each side wants to omit about itself, shit so horrible it only ever gets uttered by motivated enemies.

Also, I am a big believer in the providers of security services - public and private. I think that there is a certain class of people that pay for security from various firms and that what they get in return is actual privacy for their parties or personal activities, without even the faintest glimmer of light being shone on any of it. That is the whole point of paying millions of dollars for this kind of security: that things should remain secret. Any number of Georgetown or NY private social clubs frequented by mil/intel leadership would make a far better choice for a place where the real Caligula shit might be found going down, in my opinion.


You think organized ritual abuse and blackmail parties are confined to upscale social clubs? No you don't. Anyway, if this is about the basement of Comet, forget it, that's the equivalent of 9/11 no-plane theories. But even so, you really think security can't be arranged for a place like that? And even if there really were shit going down in the basement (at Buck's across the street, maybe) and the truth about it leaked out a little, look at what happened: Nothing. The idea was debunked by a gatekeeping consensus, and now you could do anything there your evil heart desires and have it leak out and almost nobody in the world would believe it. That's not just security, that's antifragile security. An unwitting component of that security is: You and your tribe's skeptical groupthink. Also, I have no idea what goes through the minds of people who get off on being evil, but I bet they get off on being evil a little bit more the more it's right under our noses.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:32 pm

Here's the Vigilant Citizen article on the new Sabrina. It normalizes cannibalism and underage orgies, and then normalizes cannibalism again, and then again, and then again. Aimed at teenagers, like high school freshmen and middle schoolers. Does anyone here give a shit, besides the one person who thinks it's wonderful? Are the show's political messages enlightened enough to make you indifferent to how it brainwashes kids with Satanic pro-cannibalism propaganda?

https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv ... f-sabrina/
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:45 pm

How many of you people think there's nothing wrong with a television show that makes satanic underage orgies and serial cannibalism look cool to middle schoolers? :shrug: You sure as fuck would think there's something wrong with it if you felt the show served an unenlightened political purpose. But as long as it's woke enough then you're just fine with kids being sold devil-worship, softcore underage porn, cannibalism, cannibalism, cannibalism, and cannibalism?
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:25 pm

What is it that keeps you from judging it? Is it that you think judging sick and twisted art tastes will lead to a reactionary campaign against Degenerate Art? But you would obviously see the same exact art as flaming evidence of ghoulish evil if right wing elites owned it and produced it.

Anyone?

Bueller?
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:52 am

Great thread.

thrulookingglass » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:36 pm wrote:Sammy Davis Jr. was enamored by Satanism for a while. No one is pissing on his grave. Frank Sinatra out and out raped a few women, drugging them before taking advantage of them, but he's still king of the board. It's the queer teletubbies ruining the world, not clandestine military action or simply 'industry'.


If there is anything we have learned, it's that there is no real boundary between the two phenomena you're holding up as juxtaposed.

Gambling is a Fortune 500 concern, so is the distribution of hardcore pornography, and every corner of our pop culture is shaped by our military.

A military which considers our very minds to be a valid domain for their full spectrum dominance. We also know they consider the occult to be a force multiplier towards those ends.

Anyways.

I have this conversation a lot, which is to say, rant bitterly about the obviousness of all this to people who would much rather enjoy their Netflix than grapple with it. We've been colonized by monsters, I wouldn't want to grapple with it either if I had a choice.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:03 pm

Well said, Mr. WRex.

FourthBase wrote:
Epstein was totally unrelated to pizzagate and no ties between the two have been alleged.


Uh...no. Wrong.
Very, very, very wrong.

The loadbearing beam of all Pizzagate theorizing was Epstein. Bill Clinton was a frequent flyer on Epstein's Lolita Express. If Bill Clinton is an evil fucking child rapist, then let's see what his inner circle is like. Oh, look. His wife's campaign manager is really into cannibalism. And that guy's lobbyist brother really loves child snuff paintings, infant abuse art, naked teen photos, decapitated corpse sculpture, and cannibalism paintings (that's who lent the other brother the cannibal painting hanging in Hillary's HQ). Gee, that's really suspicious. And they both have standing invitations to join a dinner ritual with an occult performance artist who's also really into cannibalism. Weird. And the pizza place where kids gather to play ping pong and where one brother celebrates his birthday and where Hillary holds fundraisers has an Instagram with creepy injokes about murder and pedophilia and pictures of a little girl with her arms bound with tape to a table and they host all ages edgelord punk shows promoting murder and pedophilia and cannibalism and satanic mind control. What in the fuck. Hmm.

That shit is ALL REAL.
That shit is NOT IMAGINARY.

IF THEY WERE REPUBLICANS, you would immediately assume it's a new Franklin Scandal. If they were Republicans and the people who brought the scandal to everyone's attention in incoherent, antisocial ways were nihilistic trolls with a leftist bent, you would not even remotely be debunking the scandal as just a political hoax, because the facts of the case wouldn't change one fucking iota based on who's doing the dot-connecting.

Look, you fucked up. It's okay. It's not your fault. You ignored evidence of an elite pedophile ring because the people implicated had enlightened politics. Tribalism is natural. But here's your chance to reexamine the whole case with fresh, unbiased eyes. Even if only half the shit theorized about Pizzagate is true and the other half insane nonsense, that's still red meat for RigInt minds. If that dog won't hunt, won't bark, and refuses to even sniff the meat, then there's something fundamentally wrong with the dog, with the people who feel indifference or contempt for the obvious dot-connecting. Something is broken in their psyches. (And that's coming from me.)


This is interjected as an afterthought in response to 4th Base's opening above. My original message began with the next paragraph below.

FourthBase wrote:
Epstein was totally unrelated to pizzagate and no ties between the two have been alleged.


Uh...no. Wrong.
Very, very, very wrong.


Um, no, I'm not wrong. It was investigating the Clinton Foundation's operations in Haiti that brought Epstein into the picture.

4th Base, I'm insulted by your personalizing this issue and faulting me for not being more involved in researching the PG issue further. I had explained to you that I encouraged others so inclined to research such matters to continue investigating, knowing full well a network of pedophilics operated within the DC beltway, much as they do in other centers of power and nearly everywhere else. Of all people here, you should know I've never been one to research conspiracies - I came here to seek from those who appeared to me did, help to discern whether my son's murder was an organized MK event. You know how that went. And so, I hang out and discuss what topics I feel comfortable commenting upon and was glad to contribute to threads more up my alley - woo and ancient crap and our health and environment.

Granted, child abuse and trafficking of children is abhorrent. There are a great many things we encounter in life and become concerned about enough to bring us to act; to become educated on the issues and organize and promote your common viewpoint. Had I encountered such an issue when I was younger, that might have been what work I dedicated my life to see such practices eradicated. However, those issues I had never encountered, although I have known women who have been raped and one person (not an RI member) who suffered from being raised in an incestuous family. So I didn't. I also never organized to oppose nuclear weapons, which should be everyone's largest fear, greater than fighting to offset the damage sure to come from our changing climate. Neither did I organize around a myriad of other issues to cause one serious concern. If you become involved in too many issues simultaneously, you'll not be effective fighting any.

My lifelong activities from age 30 were all related to improving community health and but due to limits from injury and age and a failing mind I am now retired an unlikely to fight for anything more than another day of life.

I was quick to do my best to answer for you your question. I'll be leaving this thread now. Nice to see you again, 4th Base
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:28 am

Iam, I do respect you, but your point of view on Pizzagate is definitely clouded by political attachments. I think it must be difficult for you to conceive of a network of progressives who are just as evil as right wing ghouls.

Um, no, I'm not wrong. It was investigating the Clinton Foundation's operations in Haiti that brought Epstein into the picture.


Epstein was already in the picture.

Anyway, the sequence doesn't even matter. The messenger doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if literal Nazis spread rumors about the Clintons kidnapping kids in Haiti first and only then introduced an Epstein connection to their theories.

Again, if George H. W. Bush had frequently flown on a billionaire pedophile pimp's private jet:

- You would assume the worst about a Bush charity that operated in an impoverished country, especially if that charity had been co-founded by the billionaire pedophile pimp, especially if the Bush administration helped release somebody in that country accused of trying to kidnap orphans.

- You would assume the worst about Bush insiders who love child corpse paintings, infant abuse art, underage naked photos, cannibalism, and occult rituals.

- You would not care who publicized the information first.

- You would not treat any bad information added to the picture as if it wholly disconfirmed the rest. So, for example, in a world where Bush flew on Lawrence King's private jet, if some conspiracy theorists insanely insisted that the pilot of the jet was John Travolta working for Queen Elizabeth, you wouldn't emphasize that bogus part in order to disregard the rest.

4th Base, I'm insulted by your personalizing this issue and faulting me for not being more involved in researching the PG issue further. I had explained to you that I encouraged others so inclined to research such matters to continue investigating, knowing full well a network of pedophilics operated within the DC beltway, much as they do in other centers of power and nearly everywhere else.


I'm not faulting you for not being more involved. I'm faulting you for resisting the idea that Pizzagate was based on some ugly realities. I think your idea of what qualifies as a center of power in DC excludes progressives. I think that you feel it's impossible for there to be a network of evil progressives.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:54 am

megan twohey

Problems is "global in scope—most of the images found last year were traced to other countries-but one firmly rooted in the US because of the CENTRAL ROLE SILICON VALLEY HAS PLAYED in facilitating the imagery’s spread and in reporting it to authorities."


I am posting the whole article because it is behind a paywall

The Internet Is Overrun With Images of Child Sexual Abuse. What Went Wrong?

Online predators create and share the illegal material, which is increasingly cloaked by technology. Tech companies, the government and the authorities are no match.

By MICHAEL H. KELLER and GABRIEL J.X. DANCE
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The images are horrific. Children, some just 3 or 4 years old, being sexually abused and in some cases tortured.

Pictures of child sexual abuse have long been produced and shared to satisfy twisted adult obsessions. But it has never been like this: Technology companies reported a record 45 million online photos and videos of the abuse last year.

More than a decade ago, when the reported number was less than a million, the proliferation of the explicit imagery had already reached a crisis point. Tech companies, law enforcement agencies and legislators in Washington responded, committing to new measures meant to rein in the scourge. Landmark legislation passed in 2008.
Yet the explosion in detected content kept growing — exponentially.

Exploited
Articles in this series examine the explosion in online photos and videos of children being sexually abused. They include graphic descriptions of some instances of the abuse.
An investigation by The New York Times found an insatiable criminal underworld that had exploited the flawed and insufficient efforts to contain it. As with hate speech and terrorist propaganda, many tech companies failed to adequately police sexual abuse imagery on their platforms, or failed to cooperate sufficiently with the authorities when they found it.

Law enforcement agencies devoted to the problem were left understaffed and underfunded, even as they were asked to handle far larger caseloads.

The Justice Department, given a major role by Congress, neglected even to write mandatory monitoring reports, nor did it appoint a senior executive-level official to lead a crackdown. And the group tasked with serving as a federal clearinghouse for the imagery — the go-between for the tech companies and the authorities — was ill equipped for the expanding demands.

A paper recently published in conjunction with that group, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, described a system at “a breaking point,” with reports of abusive images “exceeding the capabilities of independent clearinghouses and law enforcement to take action.” It suggested that future advancements in machine learning might be the only way to catch up with the criminals.
In 1998, there were over 3,000 reports of child sexual abuse imagery.

Just over a decade later, yearly reports soared past 100,000.

In 2014, that number surpassed 1 million for the first time.

Last year, there were 18.4 million, more than one-third of the total ever reported.

Those reports included over 45 million images and videos flagged as child sexual abuse.

By Rich Harris | Source: The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children

The Times reviewed over 10,000 pages of police and court documents; conducted software tests to assess the availability of the imagery through search engines; accompanied detectives on raids; and spoke with investigators, lawmakers, tech executives and government officials. The reporting included conversations with an admitted pedophile who concealed his identity using encryption software and who runs a site that has hosted as many as 17,000 such images.

In interviews, victims across the United States described in heart-wrenching detail how their lives had been upended by the abuse. Children, raped by relatives and strangers alike, being told it was normal. Adults, now years removed from their abuse, still living in fear of being recognized from photos and videos on the internet. And parents of the abused, struggling to cope with the guilt of not having prevented it and their powerlessness over stopping its online spread.

Many of the survivors and their families said their view of humanity had been inextricably changed by the crimes themselves and the online demand for images of them.

“I don’t really know how to deal with it,” said one woman who, at age 11, had been filmed being sexually assaulted by her father. “You’re just trying to feel O.K. and not let something like this define your whole life. But the thing with the pictures is — that’s the thing that keeps this alive.”

The Times’s reporting revealed a problem global in scope — most of the images found last year were traced to other countries — but one firmly rooted in the United States because of the central role Silicon Valley has played in facilitating the imagery’s spread and in reporting it to the authorities.

While the material, commonly known as child pornography, predates the digital era, smartphone cameras, social media and cloud storage have allowed the images to multiply at an alarming rate. Both recirculated and new images occupy all corners of the internet, including a range of platforms as diverse as Facebook Messenger, Microsoft’s Bing search engine and the storage service Dropbox.

Clockwise from left: An agent with a task force in Kansas reviewing messages a suspect sent to a child. An officer carrying away a hard drive from a home in Salt Lake City.

Kholood Eid for The New York Times

In a particularly disturbing trend, online groups are devoting themselves to sharing images of younger children and more extreme forms of abuse. The groups use encrypted technologies and the dark web, the vast underbelly of the internet, to teach pedophiles how to carry out the crimes and how to record and share images of the abuse worldwide. In some online forums, children are forced to hold up signs with the name of the group or other identifying information to prove the images are fresh.
With so many reports of the abuse coming their way, law enforcement agencies across the country said they were often besieged. Some have managed their online workload by focusing on imagery depicting the youngest victims.

“We go home and think, ‘Good grief, the fact that we have to prioritize by age is just really disturbing,’” said Detective Paula Meares, who has investigated child sex crimes for more than 10 years at the Los Angeles Police Department.

In some sense, increased detection of the spiraling problem is a sign of progress. Tech companies are legally required to report images of child abuse only when they discover them; they are not required to look for them.

After years of uneven monitoring of the material, several major tech companies, including Facebook and Google, stepped up surveillance of their platforms. In interviews, executives with some companies pointed to the voluntary monitoring and the spike in reports as indications of their commitment to addressing the problem.

But police records and emails, as well as interviews with nearly three dozen local, state and federal law enforcement officials, show that some tech companies still fall short. It can take weeks or months for them to respond to questions from the authorities, if they respond at all. Sometimes they respond only to say they have no records, even for reports they initiated.

And when tech companies cooperate fully, encryption and anonymization can create digital hiding places for perpetrators. Facebook announced in March plans to encrypt Messenger, which last year was responsible for nearly 12 million of the 18.4 million worldwide reports of child sexual abuse material, according to people familiar with the reports. Reports to the authorities typically contain more than one image, and last year encompassed the record 45 million photos and videos, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
All the while, criminals continue to trade and stockpile caches of the material.

The law Congress passed in 2008 foresaw many of today’s problems, but The Times found that the federal government had not fulfilled major aspects of the legislation.

The Justice Department has produced just two of six required reports that are meant to compile data about internet crimes against children and set goals to eliminate them, and there has been a constant churn of short-term appointees leading the department’s efforts. The first person to hold the position, Francey Hakes, said it was clear from the outset that no one “felt like the position was as important as it was written by Congress to be.”

The federal government has also not lived up to the law’s funding goals, severely crippling efforts to stamp out the activity.

Congress has regularly allocated about half of the $60 million in yearly funding for state and local law enforcement efforts. Separately, the Department of Homeland Security this year diverted nearly $6 million from its cybercrimes units to immigration enforcement — depleting 40 percent of the units’ discretionary budget until the final month of the fiscal year.

Alicia Kozakiewicz, who was abducted by a man she had met on the internet when she was 13, said the lack of follow-through was disheartening. Now an advocate for laws preventing crimes against children, she had testified in support of the 2008 legislation.

Alicia Kozakiewicz was abducted as a child. Now, she works at the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children, advocating laws to prevent abuse. Kholood Eid for The New York Times
“I remember looking around the room, and there wasn’t a dry eye,” said Ms. Kozakiewicz, 31, who had told of being chained, raped and beaten while her kidnapper live-streamed the abuse on the internet. “The federal bill passed, but it wasn’t funded. So it didn’t mean anything.”

Further impairing the federal response are shortcomings at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which reviews reports it receives and then distributes them to federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, as well as international partners.
The nonprofit center has relied in large measure on 20-year-old technology, has difficulty keeping experienced engineers on staff and, by its own reckoning, regards stopping the online distribution of photos and videos secondary to rescuing children.

“To be honest, it’s a resource and volume issue,” said John Shehan, a vice president at the center, which was established 35 years ago to track missing children. “First priority is making sure we’re assessing the risk of the children. We’re getting this information into the hands of law enforcement.”


The headquarters of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, a clearinghouse of abuse imagery. The organization serves as a go-between for tech companies and law enforcement agencies. Kholood Eid for The New York Times
Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a Democrat from Florida who was an author of the 2008 law, said in an interview that she was unaware of the extent of the federal government’s failures. After being briefed on The Times’s findings, she sent a letter to Attorney General William Barr requesting an accounting.
Stacie B. Harris, the Justice Department’s coordinator over the past year for combating child exploitation, said the problem was systemic, extending well beyond the department and her tenure there. “We are trying to play catch-up because we know that this is a huge, huge problem,” said Ms. Harris, an associate deputy attorney general.

The fallout for law enforcement, in some instances, has been crushing.

When reviewing tips from the national center, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has narrowed its focus to images of infants and toddlers. And about one of every 10 agents in Homeland Security’s investigative section — which deals with all kinds of threats, including terrorism — is now assigned to child sexual exploitation cases.

“We could double our numbers and still be getting crushed,” said Jonathan Hendrix, a Homeland Security agent who investigates cases in Nashville.

The Cutting Edge

The videos found on the computer of an Ohio man were described by investigators as among “the most gruesome and violent images of child pornography.”

One showed a woman orally forcing herself on a girl who was then held upside down by the ankles in a bathroom while “another child urinates” on her face, according to court documents.

Another showed a woman “inserting an ice cube into the vagina” of a young girl, the documents said, before tying her ankles together, taping her mouth shut and suspending her upside down. As the video continued, the girl was beaten, slapped and burned with a match or candle.

“The predominant sound is the child screaming and crying,” according to a federal agent quoted in the documents.

The videos were stored in a hidden computer file and had also been encrypted, one common way abusive imagery has been able to race across the internet with impunity.



Clockwise from left: Restraints prepared for a suspect in Wichita, Kan. An officer’s view into the interrogation room.

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Increasingly, criminals are using advanced technologies like encryption to stay ahead of the police. In this case, the Ohio man, who helped run a website on the dark web known as the Love Zone, had over 3 million photos and videos on his computers.

The site, now shuttered, had nearly 30,000 members and required them to share images of abuse to maintain good standing, according to the court documents. A private section of the forum was available only to members who shared imagery of children they abused themselves. They were known as “producers.”

Multiple police investigations over the past few years have broken up enormous dark web forums, including one known as Child’s Play that was reported to have had over a million user accounts.
The highly skilled perpetrators often taunt the authorities with their technical skills, acting boldly because they feel protected by the cover of darkness.

“People who traffic in child exploitation materials are on the cutting edge of technology,” said Susan Hennessey, a former lawyer at the National Security Agency who researches cybersecurity at the Brookings Institution.

Offenders can cover their tracks by connecting to virtual private networks, which mask their locations; deploying encryption techniques, which can hide their messages and make their hard drives impenetrable; and posting on the dark web, which is inaccessible to conventional browsers.

The anonymity offered by the sites emboldens members to post images of very young children being sexually abused, and in increasingly extreme and violent forms.

“Historically, you would never have gone to a black market shop and asked, ‘I want real hard-core with 3-year-olds,’” said Yolanda Lippert, a prosecutor in Cook County, Ill., who leads a team investigating online child abuse. “But now you can sit seemingly secure on your device searching for this stuff, trading for it.”

Exhibits in the case of the Love Zone, sealed by the court but released by a judge after a request by The Times, include screenshots showing the forum had dedicated areas where users discussed ways to remain “safe” while posting and downloading the imagery. Tips included tutorials on how to encrypt and share material without being detected by the authorities.

The offender in Ohio, a site administrator named Jason Gmoser, “went to great lengths to hide” his conduct, according to the documents. Testimony in his criminal case revealed that it would have taken the authorities “trillions of years” to crack the 41-character password he had used to encrypt the site. He eventually turned it over to investigators, and was sentenced to life in prison in 2016.

The site was run by a number of men, including Brian Davis, a worker at a child day care center in Illinois who admitted to documenting abuse of his own godson and more than a dozen other children — aged 3 months to 8 years — and sharing images of the assaults with other members. Mr. Davis made over 400 posts on the site. One image showed him orally raping a 2-year-old; another depicted a man raping an infant’s anus.

Mr. Davis, who was sentenced to 30 years in prison in 2016, said that “capturing the abuse on video was part of the excitement,” according to court records.
Some of his victims attended the court proceedings and submitted statements about their continuing struggles with the abuse.
‘Truly Terrible Things’

The surge in criminal activity on the dark web accounted for only a fraction of the 18.4 million reports of abuse last year. That number originates almost entirely with tech companies based in the United States.

The companies have known for years that their platforms were being co-opted by predators, but many of them essentially looked the other way, according to interviews and emails detailing the companies’ activities. And while many companies have made recent progress in identifying the material, they were slow to respond.

Hemanshu Nigam, a former federal prosecutor in cybercrime and child exploitation cases, said it was clear more than two decades ago that new technologies had created the biggest boon for pedophiles since the Polaroid camera.

The recent surge by tech companies in filing reports of online abuse “wouldn’t exist if they did their job then,” said Mr. Nigam, who now runs a cybersecurity consulting firm and previously held top security roles at Microsoft, Myspace and News Corporation.

Hany Farid, who worked with Microsoft to develop technology in 2009 for detecting child sexual abuse material, said tech companies had been reluctant for years to dig too deeply.

“The companies knew the house was full of roaches, and they were scared to turn the lights on,” he said. “And then when they did turn the lights on, it was worse than they thought.”

Federal law requires companies to preserve material about their reports of abuse imagery for 90 days. But given the overwhelming number of reports, it is not uncommon for requests from the authorities to reach companies too late.

“That’s a huge issue for us,” said Capt. Mike Edwards, a Seattle police commander who oversees a cybercrimes unit for the State of Washington. “You’ve got a short period of time to be able to get the data if it was preserved.”

Most tech companies have been quick to respond to urgent inquiries, but responses in other cases vary significantly. In interviews, law enforcement officials pointed to Tumblr, a blogging and social networking site with 470 million users, as one of the most problematic companies.


Clockwise from left: Capt. Mike Edwards, a police commander who oversees a cybercrime unit for the State of Washington. An agent combing a Seattle home for evidence. A digital triage area that was set up in the suspect’s kitchen.

Kholood Eid for The New York Times

Police officers in Missouri, New Jersey, Texas and Wisconsin lamented Tumblr’s poor response to requests, with one officer describing the issues as “long-term and ongoing” in an internal document.

A recent investigation in Polk County, Wis., that included an image of a man orally raping a young child stalled for over a year. The investigator retired before Tumblr responded to numerous emails requesting information.

In a 2016 Wisconsin case, Tumblr alerted a person who had uploaded explicit images that the account had been referred to the authorities, a practice that a former employee told The Times had been common for years. The tip allowed the man to destroy evidence on his electronic devices, the police said.

A spokeswoman for Verizon said that Tumblr prioritized time-sensitive cases, which delayed other responses. Since Verizon acquired the company in 2017, the spokeswoman said, its practice was not to alert users of police requests for data. Verizon recently sold Tumblr to the web development company Automattic.

The law enforcement officials also pointed to problems with Microsoft’s Bing search engine, and Snap, the parent company of the social network Snapchat.

Bing was said to regularly submit reports that lacked essential information, making investigations difficult, if not impossible. Snapchat, a platform especially popular with young people, is engineered to delete most of its content within a short period of time. According to law enforcement, when requests are made to the company, Snap often replies that it has no additional information.

A Microsoft spokesman said that the company had only limited information about offenders using the search engine, and that it was cooperating as best as it could. A Snap spokesman said the company preserved data in compliance with the law.

Data obtained through a public records request suggests Facebook’s plans to encrypt Messenger in the coming years will lead to vast numbers of images of child abuse going undetected. The data shows that WhatsApp, the company’s encrypted messaging app, submits only a small fraction of the reports Messenger does.
Facebook has long known about abusive images on its platforms, including a video of a man sexually assaulting a 6-year-old that went viral last year on Messenger. When Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s chief executive, announced in March that Messenger would move to encryption, he acknowledged the risk it presented for “truly terrible things like child exploitation.”
“Encryption is a powerful tool for privacy,” he said, “but that includes the privacy of people doing bad things.”

‘Vastly Inadequate’

“In a recent case, an offender filmed himself drugging the juice boxes of neighborhood children before tricking them into drinking the mix,” said Special Agent Flint Waters, a criminal investigator for the State of Wyoming. “He then filmed himself as he sexually abused unconscious children.”

Mr. Waters, appearing before Congress in Washington, was describing what he said “we see every day.”

He went on to present a map of the United States covered with red dots, each representing a computer used to share images of child sex abuse. Fewer than two percent of the crimes would be investigated, he predicted. “We are overwhelmed, we are underfunded and we are drowning in the tidal wave of tragedy,” he said.

Mr. Waters’s testimony was delivered 12 years ago — in 2007.

A cybercrime training course at the New York City Police Academy in Queens. Kholood Eid for The New York Times
The following year, Congress passed legislation that acknowledged the severity of the crisis. But then the federal government largely moved on. Some of the strongest provisions of the law were not fulfilled, and many problems went unfixed, according to interviews and government documents.

Today, Mr. Waters’s testimony offers a haunting reminder of time lost.

Annual funding for state and regional investigations was authorized at $60 million, but only about half of that is regularly approved. It has increased only slightly from 10 years ago when accounting for inflation. Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat of Connecticut who was a sponsor of the law’s reauthorization, said there was “no adequate or logical explanation and no excuse” for why more money was not allocated. Even $60 million a year, he said, would now be “vastly inadequate.”

Another cornerstone of the law, the biennial strategy reports by the Justice Department, was mostly ignored. Even the most recent of the two reports that were published, in 2010 and 2016, did not include data about some of the most pressing concerns, such as the trade in illicit imagery.
The Justice Department’s coordinator for child exploitation prevention, Ms. Harris, said she could not explain the poor record. A spokeswoman for the department, citing limited resources, said the reports would now be written every four years beginning in 2020.

When the law was reauthorized in 2012, the coordinator role was supposed to be elevated to a senior executive position with broad authority. That has not happened. “This is supposed to be the quarterback,” said Ms. Wasserman Schultz, one of the provision’s authors.

Even when the Justice Department has been publicly called out for ignoring provisions of the law, there has been little change.

In 2011, the Government Accountability Office reported that no steps had been taken to research which online offenders posed a high risk to children, and that the Justice Department had not submitted a progress assessment to Congress, both requirements of the law.
At the time, the department said it did not have enough funding to undertake the research and had no “time frame” for submitting a report. Today, the provisions remain largely unfulfilled.

The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which testified in favor of the 2008 law, has also struggled with demands to contain the spread of the imagery.

Founded in 1984 after the well-publicized kidnapping and murder of a 6-year-old Florida boy, Adam Walsh, the center has been closely affiliated with the federal government since the Reagan administration.



Clockwise from left: Yiota Souras and John Shehan, executives at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Milk carton ads and a photo of John and Revé Walsh, who founded the center in 1984 after their 6-year-old son was murdered.

Kholood Eid for The New York Times

But as child exploitation has grown on the internet, the center has not kept up. The technology it uses for receiving and reviewing reports of the material was created in 1998, nearly a decade before the first iPhone was released. To perform key upgrades and help modernize the system, the group has relied on donations from tech companies like Palantir and Google.

The center has said it intends to make significant improvements to its technology starting in 2020, but the problems don’t stop there. The police complain that the most urgent reports are not prioritized, or are sent to the wrong department completely.

“We’re spending a tremendous amount of time having to go through those and reanalyze them ourselves,” said Captain Edwards, the Seattle police official.

In a statement, the national center said it did its best to route reports to the correct jurisdiction.

Despite its mandate by Congress, the center is not subject to public records laws and operates with little transparency. It repeatedly denied requests from The Times for quarterly and annual reports submitted to the Justice Department, as well as for tallies of imagery reports submitted by individual tech companies.



Clockwise from left: A phone seized by a task force in Seattle. Sketches found during the raid. Agents lifting the suspect’s mattress in search of illicit material.

Kholood Eid for The New York Times

Mr. Shehan, the vice president, said such disclosures might discourage tech companies from cooperating with the center. He said the numbers could be misinterpreted.

The Times found that there was a close relationship between the center and Silicon Valley that raised questions about good governance practices. For example, the center receives both money and in-kind donations from tech companies, while employees of the same companies are sometimes members of its board. Google alone has donated nearly $4 million in the past decade, according to public testimony.

A spokeswoman for the center said it was common to expect corporations to provide financial assistance to charities. But the practice, others working in the area of child protection say, could elevate the interests of the tech companies above the children’s.

“There’s an inherent conflict in accepting money from these companies when they also sit on your board,” said Signy Arnason, who is a top executive at the equivalent organization in Canada, known as the Canadian Center for Child Protection.
This close relationship with tech companies may ultimately be in jeopardy. In 2016, a federal court held that the national center, though private, qualified legally as a government entity because it performed a number of essential government functions.
If that view gains traction, Fourth Amendment challenges about searches and seizures by the government could change how the center operates and how tech companies find and remove illegal imagery on their platforms. Under those circumstances, if they were to collaborate too closely with the center, the companies fear, they could also be viewed as government actors, not private entities, subjecting them to new legal requirements and court challenges when they police their own sites.

An Ugly Mirror

It was a sunny afternoon in July, and an unmarked police van in Salt Lake City was parked outside a pink stucco house. Garden gnomes and a heart-shaped “Welcome Friends” sign decorated the front yard.

At the back of the van, a man who lived in the house was seated in a cramped interrogation area, while officers cataloged hard drives and sifted through web histories from his computers.

The man had shared sexually explicit videos online, the police said, including one of a 10-year-old boy being “orally sodomized” by a man, and another of a man forcing two young boys to engage in anal intercourse.

“The sad thing is that’s pretty tame compared to what we’ve seen,” said Chief Jessica Farnsworth, an official with the Utah attorney general’s office who led a raid of the house. The victims have not been identified or rescued.



Clockwise from left: Investigators in Salt Lake City searching a home for abuse content. Confiscated electronic material in a mobile forensics lab. Jessica Farnsworth, an official with the Utah attorney general’s office who oversaw the operation.

Kholood Eid for The New York Times

The year was barely half over, and Chief Farnsworth’s team had already conducted about 150 such raids across Utah. The specially trained group, one of 61 nationwide, coordinates state and regional responses to internet crimes against children.

The Utah group expects to arrest nearly twice as many people this year as last year for crimes related to child sexual abuse material, but federal funding has not kept pace with the surge. Funding for the 61 task forces from 2010 to 2018 remained relatively flat, federal data shows, while the number of leads referred to them increased by more than 400 percent.
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Much of the federal money goes toward training new staff members because the cases take a heavy emotional and psychological toll on investigators, resulting in constant turnover.

“I thought that I was in the underbelly of society — until I came here,” said Ms. Lippert, the prosecutor with the task force in Illinois, who had worked for years at a busy Chicago courthouse.

While any child at imminent risk remains a priority, the volume of work has also forced the task forces to make difficult choices. Some have focused on the youngest and most vulnerable victims, while others have cut back on undercover operations, including infiltrating chat rooms and online forums.

“I think some of the bigger fish who are out there are staying out there,” Ms. Lippert said.

The internet is well known as a haven for hate speech, terrorism-related content and criminal activity, all of which have raised alarms and spurred public debate and action.

But the problem of child sexual abuse imagery faces a particular hurdle: It gets scant attention because few people want to confront the enormity and horror of the content, or they wrongly dismiss it as primarily teenagers sending inappropriate selfies.

Some state lawmakers, judges and members of Congress have refused to discuss the problem in detail, or have avoided attending meetings and hearings when it was on the agenda, according to interviews with law enforcement officials and victims.

Steven J. Grocki, who leads a group of policy experts and lawyers at the child exploitation section of the Justice Department, said the reluctance to address the issue went beyond elected officials and was a societal problem. “They turn away from it because it’s too ugly of a mirror,” he said.

Yet the material is everywhere, and ever more available.

“I think that people were always there, but the access is so easy,” said Lt. John Pizzuro, a task force commander in New Jersey. “You got nine million people in the state of New Jersey. Based upon statistics, we can probably arrest 400,000 people.”

Common language about the abuse can also minimize the harm in people’s minds. While the imagery is often defined as “child pornography” in state and federal laws, experts prefer terms like child sexual abuse imagery or child exploitation material to underscore the seriousness of the crimes and to avoid conflating it with adult pornography, which is legal for people over 18.

“Each and every image is a depiction of a crime in progress,” said Sgt. Jeff Swanson, a task force commander in Kansas. “The violence inflicted on these kids is unimaginable.”


A suspect interviewed in a mobile police lab as a home was raided in Salt Lake City.

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That's some disturbing shit. Possibly hundreds of thousands of functional psychopaths. Some little but significant percentage of them are necessarily going to be, or at least pose as, progressives. I can imagine some little but significant percentage of that percentage being very, very clever. High achievers, cultured, eloquent. And just like how cultured right wing alpha psychopaths are attracted to the opportunity for power and are precisely the ones most likely to win power because they possess no conscience to withhold them from any trick in the book whatsoever, the same goes for the left. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and power absolutely attracts the already absolutely corrupted. Which left wingers do you think have almost always found a way to capture the most power? Same as the right wingers: The morally unbound evilest ones. Take a look at some of the most powerful leftists in history. Pretty fucking evil, on the whole. Just about as evil as the right. And it's not just control of a state apparatus. Cultural power, too. How much power does the right wing have in, say, Hollywood? Very little. Some military propaganda still gets made, a cottage industry of Christian kitsch, that's about it. Now, think of how many evil motherfuckers exist in Hollywood, some little but significant community. Some of the most boundlessly evil satanistic freaks in the world. And what do almost all of them represent themselves as politically? Enlightened. So there are necessarily going to be quite a few outwardly progressive Hollywood celebrities who are the type of sick fuck that likes to sacrifice dogs and hurt children, and they are going to have a disproportionate amount of power because they will do literally anything to get it, and they will find each other, they will try to convert others, and they will consolidate power. Naturally, DC is going to attract a swarm of them, too. Just like the evil right. What you don't want to wind up doing is ask yourself 5, 10, 20 years from now why you were just as blind to the evil on "your side" as the other side. Blinder, even, than ordinary schmucks who have no vested interest. More oblivious than the normalest normies. Humans who regard themselves as fearless fréethinkers have an extra duty to challenge their own preconceptions, regularly. To ask "What if I'm wrong?" Well, like I was saying, whatever taboo truth there is about one side's worst behavior, it usually only gets uttered by the ballsiest enemies on the other side -- the only people usually motivated enough to dig for dirt and brazen enough expose it to the world. There'll be lots and lots of noisy horseshit, but plenty of real signals and patterns if you listen, too. If you're brave enough to suspend your political ego and spoil some cherished entertainment. As the metaphor goes, however much the ghouls might mean it literally: Kill your darlings. Even, or especially, the "enlightened" ones.
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