What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment?

[Iamwhomiam]

4thB, this will be my last entry in this thread. You have unnecessarily personalized this issue. I am not and I never have been one to investigate such dark subjects and that's not accidental. There are more dark things existing than I care to examine. I've come to believe there is no such thing as magic, but only intention. Hell, I refuse to visit anyone in jail, it is so filled with darkness. Though I've called myself a lamplighter, I've never sought to penetrate the heart of darkness, I prefer to nibble away at what I perceive as its surfacing in the communities I've lived in, but never came across such darkness like this you speak of, though it most surely existed all around me. As I wrote earlier, these are not issues I have been or ever will be involved in eradicating. You want to fault me, a dying man for dropping the ball, a ball that was never in my possession.

Ah, but RI enables the shield instead. I repeat: To the extent that you willfully ignore the implications of the disturbingly factual parts of Pizzagate and Vigilant Citizen, you are acting as a shield for sadistic occult elites. Please do not do that.

I can only speak for myself. In no way did I ignore the implications of pizzagate. As I've previously mentioned, I encouraged further research be engaged in by those more interested in the issue than I have been. No one here is shielding such a sadistic cult as you've described, unless they themselves are engaged in such practices. I've mentioned in the past my taking guruilla to task with hard, personal questioning after he broached the subject here, and he was more open in answering than I imagined he would be, and I deeply respect him for that, so how about you pick on someone else besides me for a change - I'm out.

If you'd like to discuss another subject with me, please do so, but in another thread. I only entered this thread to welcome you back after your long absence and tried my best to answer your op's question. I never intended to discuss the topic of pizzagate, but have only tried to defend myself from your rather outrageous personal accusations.

[FourthBase]

It's not personalized. I am not talking to you and only you. Although, yes, your euphemisms for the depraved art that occult elites feed kids and your kneejerk inaccurate debunking of Pizzagate also make you complicit. I am not picking on you. I'm picking on pretty much the entire board.

[Cordelia]

Billy Eilish; another young girl abused and packaged as a product from the 'music' industry. Just shy of 3 years ago at age 15:




...before ‘maturing’ to 18 for a 2019 image I find too disgusting to inflict on others by posting: https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content ... -video.jpg

Well you kinda just did! I have never heard of that guy before you brought him up.

Open the link and actually read it.
It's interesting and disturbing.
Eilish is a girl.

That doesn't mean 82 didn't read it; he called me a dude up-thread, so I think he's sometimes gender challenged. Though 'guy' and 'dude' beats 'gal' and (shudder) dudette imo. (Eilish is the Irish form of Elizabeth.)

[FourthBase]

It really is amazing how fucking deranged Billie Eilish videos are. Here, look for yourselves at the new industry-appointed pied piper of tweens.





But there's nothing creepy about the last video, you see, because it's just an enlightened metaphor for climate change!

[Cordelia]

Before exiting the sick, dangerous and soul-sucking rabbit hole of the O'Connel siblings (our newish century’s version of the Osmond & Carpenter siblings?), this video was presented six short months ago...

SPACES: Inside the Tiny Bedroom Where FINNEAS and Billie Eilish Are Redefining Pop Music


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJ914ha6LQ

^^^Take-away...The normalcy of their All- American upbringing in a humble L.A. abode, where the sibling ‘musicians’ were home-schooled, a pet dog and cat, big bro reflects on their music, his recording equipment, their self-sacrificing parents (who sleep in the living room in order that their wholesome children don’t have to share a bedroom), the “crazy intimacy” of writing and recording little sis’s music in his “tiny bedroom” (and bathroom, where they light hundreds of matches for sound effects), video includes family pics, penciled-on-wall growth chart, etc., etc..all the usual, and people really buy this shit?


NEW YORK, NEW YORK - SEPTEMBER 29: Billie Eilish and brother Finneas O'Connell pose with the cast backstage at "Harry Potter and The Cursed Child, Parts 1 & 2" at The Lyric Theatre on September 29, 2019 in New York City.

^^^Just last week on Broadway.

The Banality of Evilish

[Jerky]

Wait... so now Rig Int has also evolved into one of those "watch out for the subversive evil of Harry Potter" kind of places, as well?

As for the presented Billy Eilish videos and music, based on the descriptions by Vigilant Citizen and 4th Base, I was expecting something truly disturbing, if not disgusting. Instead, I found both the music and the videos to be not too shabby! I also doubt that any but the most mature of "tweens" are going to be drawn to this type of music or presentation.

4th Base, there is literally nothing to Pizzagate, and "elite" pedophiles are neither more prevalent nor are they more intrinsically evil than are those grubby, everyday working class pedophiles, who are far, FAR more numerous.

You claim people who poo-poo Pizzagate refuse to acknowledge that there might be some legitimate evidence to be found among the politicized psy-op dross.

I, on the other hand, claim that you and others like you only believe that there might be some legitimate evidence to be found among the politicized psy-op dross in the first place is because, for some strange reason, you desperately WANT TO BELIEVE.

I am reminded of a book I read a while back about the "evil" 1960's, about how that era was poisoned because it was infested with the presence of witches and warlocks and malevolent drug smoking anti-authority LSD-tripping Mansonoid hippies.

Meanwhile, at the same time, halfway around the world, those self-same "authorities" that the authors were defending against the "evil" lefty New Agers? They were committing a literal Holocaust against the peoples of Southeast Asia, incinerating and poisoning to death THREE FUCKING MILLION (mostly) INNOCENTS, for absolutely NO valid reason whatsoever.

Remind me... who were the evil ones again?

[Sounder]

I agree with what you say in this thread FB. It seems clear that some social elements that identify as progressive, promote some very creepy material. I do wish you had provided a better trigger warning, as I really do not care to view these kinds of images.

Jerky wrote...

4th Base, there is literally nothing to Pizzagate, and "elite" pedophiles are neither more prevalent nor are they more intrinsically evil than are those grubby, everyday working class pedophiles, who are far, FAR more numerous.

There is a book called "The Hellfire Club", written by Danial P. Mannix that tells the story of the elite of Britain in the 1700's. It seems a major sport for them was to deflower virgin girls as they arrived to the big city in search of a better life.

The times were brutal and these royal fuckwits and drunkards did little to help their fellowman, even tho they talked about it quite a bit.

You don't get it Jerky. To be part of the elite one must prove that they despise ordinary people.

[FourthBase]

Wait... so now Rig Int has also evolved into one of those "watch out for the subversive evil of Harry Potter" kind of places, as well?

As for the presented Billy Eilish videos and music, based on the descriptions by Vigilant Citizen and 4th Base, I was expecting something truly disturbing, if not disgusting. Instead, I found both the music and the videos to be not too shabby! I also doubt that any but the most mature of "tweens" are going to be drawn to this type of music or presentation.

4th Base, there is literally nothing to Pizzagate, and "elite" pedophiles are neither more prevalent nor are they more intrinsically evil than are those grubby, everyday working class pedophiles, who are far, FAR more numerous.

You claim people who poo-poo Pizzagate refuse to acknowledge that there might be some legitimate evidence to be found among the politicized psy-op dross.

I, on the other hand, claim that you and others like you only believe that there might be some legitimate evidence to be found among the politicized psy-op dross in the first place is because, for some strange reason, you desperately WANT TO BELIEVE.

I am reminded of a book I read a while back about the "evil" 1960's, about how that era was poisoned because it was infested with the presence of witches and warlocks and malevolent drug smoking anti-authority LSD-tripping Mansonoid hippies.

Meanwhile, at the same time, halfway around the world, those self-same "authorities" that the authors were defending against the "evil" lefty New Agers? They were committing a literal Holocaust against the peoples of Southeast Asia, incinerating and poisoning to death THREE FUCKING MILLION (mostly) INNOCENTS, for absolutely NO valid reason whatsoever.

Remind me... who were the evil ones again?

See, everybody, it's okay that occult elites normalize satanic mind control for a "mature" tween audience because the aesthetics are cool and war is bad. How enlightened!

And there's no reason to worry about elite pedophiles, because they're outnumbered by ordinary pedophiles, and there's nothing particularly evil about them. Well, that's a relief.

Literally nothing to Pizzagate, yep, except a president consorting with a billionaire pedophile pimp, and the cannibalism fetishes and paintings of murdered and abused children in that president's inner circle, and that president's daughter vacationing with the billionaire pedophile pimp's partner in crime, and a restaurant that hosts fundraisers for that president's wife which caters to children one minute and the next minute makes murder and pedophilia jokes on social media and hosts "punk" shows with themes of murder, cannibalism, and pedophilia. Literally.

You should've been banned three years ago, creep.

[FourthBase]

I was flipping through Netflix the other day and noticed the Sabrina show's pro-cannibalism pro-Satanism propaganda is officially rated TV-14. But I'm sure only the most "mature" of tweens also manage to watch it. Besides, what's wrong with artful child cannibalism? Don't you know that American soldiers once killed people somewhere?

[Iamwhomiam]

And there's no reason to worry about elite pedophiles, because they're outnumbered by ordinary pedophiles, and there's nothing particularly evil about them. Well, that's a relief.

4th Base, please stop putting words into someone's mouth they haven't written. Misconstruing what Jerky said, might make you feel good, but basically, you're lying. And no one here suggested there's no reason to not worry about elite pedophiles. You did that to me repeatedly and that's why I left this thread.

You sound like an old fart complaining about rock n roll, for goodness sake.

If you were so concerned about this issue, why haven't you been here fighting the good fight to expose such monsters? And now you return to give us hell? WTF? Shit is fucked up. We all know that and we all know that without dedicating our lives to this particular battle, we cannot do much to curtail these evils you speak of, and even if we did, I doubt the results would have much of an impact, there are so few of us and so many of them.

So please continue to share with us your progress in fighting this evil, especially whatever victories you manage to achieve, and provide us with direction of what we can do to reduce this plague. Too bad you weren't around to help out Scott Ogle. He sure could have used you in his battle south of the border.

In the meantime, you could contribute to the after the dream project.

[FourthBase]

The words are mine, but the implications are his.

You sound like an old fart complaining about rock n roll, for goodness sake.

I literally did, upthread. When you look at the "progress" from Elvis's pelvis to Eilish's demonic sex slave propaganda for tweens, can you really say that the uptight squares of the 50's were wrong about what would be unleashed? "If we let our children see him gyrate, they'll wind up brainwashed by Satan!" Haha, no, you old farts, relax, it takes longer than that. Your great-grandchildren will be the ones brainwashed by Satan.

My progress in fighting this evil starts with being able to persuade some of the most openminded sleuths of occult elite conspiracies on the internet that they've been blinded to an obvious occult elite conspiracy. I had given up after what happened three years ago. Now I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't have. Maybe it takes more than one hand to count the posters here willing to disregard political biases and look at the situation with old-fashioned RI eyes. Plus all the unknown lurkers.

[FourthBase]

I agree with what you say in this thread FB. It seems clear that some social elements that identify as progressive, promote some very creepy material. I do wish you had provided a better trigger warning, as I really do not care to view these kinds of images.

Sounder gets it.

It's a lonely feeling, ain't it Sounder?

Sorry that I posted anything disturbing without warning. I prefaced the "not too shabby" Eilish videos with some strong language. Was it the meme I made from the Rihanna video screenshot with the blindfold?

You reiterated two key points.

1. "Identify as progressive." Surely everyone here is familiar with how some evil bastards will wear a costume of Christian values. It's the same thing, but the costume is progressive. Out of all the evil bastards in the world wearing one or another costume, some percentage of them have to be assuming a progressive identity. What do people think they'd look like, if we got an unexpected peek at a handful of them? Just like the cast of characters that inhabit Pizzagate and Vigilant Citizen territory.

2. "Promote creepy material." Why would anyone do that? If it were Bilderberg capitalists or European royals or Bohemian Grove Republicans promoting such creepy material, debuting Billie Eilish videos at a private function, buying each other Djurdjevic paintings of kid corpses, indulging over and over again in a fetish for cannibal symbolism: The interest itself would be profoundly suspect. It's a natural, healthy, sane question to ask: "Why in the fuck would anyone like this shit?" If these people are expressing themselves through an interest in torture porn or cannibalism art, what is it exactly that they're expressing?

[RocketMan]

This is an interesting thread. Sounds lame, but it's all I can manage at this time. This is the sort of ground that used to be covered more around these parts. I remain skeptical that whatever Pizzagate pointed at is thoroughly "debunked", but that doesn't mean that the basic narrative that coalesced around the Podestas, the Clintons, David Brock and Comet Ping Pong is necessarily anywhere close to reality. The border between "edgy, transgressive art" and glorifying child abuse seems to me to be a pretty porous one. That being said, it is possible that Pizzagate was an intelligence-generated psyop to discredit elite child abuse rings.

What I AM supremely sure of, after having Googled a bit, is that the new iteration of Sabrina the Teenage Witch is absolutely sick and horrifying mainstreaming of all kinds of dark spiritual matter and child-associated violence.

[Iamwhomiam]

Just wondering if any of you who are appalled by Elish's music and messaging have considered the fact that she is raising more awareness within the public about such horrible, evil behaviors than any of you have, or ever will?

I don't know anything at all about Sabrina, but I do feel that anyone who watches television deserves to go to hell. More so, if they have children.

[Cordelia]

Just wondering if any of you who are appalled by Elish's music and messaging have considered the fact that she is raising more awareness within the public about such horrible, evil behaviors than any of you have, or ever will?

Unless I'm misunderstanding, one way to interpret this reasoning is that those who commit heinous crimes (for example) are also "raising more awareness within the public about such horrible, evil behaviors than any of you have, or ever will?"

In any case (from my experience), I don't think many of her public--a listening & watching audience of vulnerable children and adolescents-- have the maturity, brain development, and life-experiences to discern and not act out or embrace some of these behaviors.