Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless War

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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:26 am

You are a spook.
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby elfismiles » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:14 am

MacCruiskeen » 19 Oct 2019 14:26 wrote:You are a spook.


The charge or insinuation of "disinfo agent" can almost never be proven, and poisons and often ends meaningful discussion. Therefore suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.

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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:14 pm

Thanks, elfisrules. If Langley's Dreamboy chooses to a) piss all over this Discussion Board, and b) "put on ignore" anyone who even attempts to engage him in discussion, and if he is then incessantly allowed to get away with it, then I reserve the right to call him what he is: a liar, a coward, a warmongering pseudleft propagandist and (therefore) a spook.

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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:56 pm

elfismiles » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:14 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen » 19 Oct 2019 14:26 wrote:You are a spook.


The charge or insinuation of "disinfo agent" can almost never be proven, and poisons and often ends meaningful discussion. Therefore suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.

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thanks, apparently no one can stop MacCruiskeen from constantly breaking the rules of this board, not the mods, not Jeff, every member here should speak up because they maybe next
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:03 pm

^^What a hopeless suck-up you are. What a nasty little opportunist. What a toady.

And of course you too are as completely unprincipled as your fellow Dream.
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:05 pm

Jeff » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:18 pm wrote:There's no way this won't sound anodyne, but isn't the board big enough for everyone?

I won't pretend to be up to speed on all of the disagreements here, but maybe that's good. The issues are maybe irrelevant to my point, which is that you don't all need to be pals, but maybe you do need to give each other some space.

I don't want anybody banned or the board to be heavily moderated. In return, all I'd like is some basic, online courtesy. Like not flooding someone's thread, or driving discussion off topic, or making vicious personal attacks. That kind of stuff.

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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:07 pm

QED again, though of course you're too thick to notice.
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:43 pm

MacCruiskeen » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:56 am wrote:bump for current and typically crass use of the spook term by the spook team



Outrageous and uncontrollable

Jeff » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:00 pm wrote:
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It wasn't agent-baiting, so much as incorrigible, vulgar thuggery. I don't care on which side of an argument it's found, it's disruption. Their accounts are currently active, and probationary.
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:50 pm

^^You have me "on ignore", remember? Allegedly. Just like your fellow Dream. You people really should make a minimal effort to keep your cover story straight, ffs.

Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News

by Udo Ulfkotte Ph.D

https://www.amazon.com/Journalists-Hire ... 1944505474


It was a bestseller in German, then Ulfkotte died a very sudden death, and now the publication of that English translation has been stalled, without explanation, for nearly two years.
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby Grizzly » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:03 pm

^^^ Damn... just like they've bought up ALL the media, they've also bought up all the Printing Houses, here too.
Shame. A blind and defeated people, whom think they are FREE!

https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopolies_of_knowledge
Monopolies of knowledge arise when the ruling class maintains political power through control of key communications technologies.[2] This theory suggests that monopolies of knowledge gradually suppress new ways of thinking. Entrenched hierarchies become increasingly rigid and out of touch with social realities. Challenges to elite power are often likely to arise on the margins of society. The arts, for example, are often seen as a means of escape from the sterility of conformist thought.[3]


I often agree with Mac, but it's not just Merica...

Australia
New Zealand
Canada
Brazil
Europe
Pan-European groups
EU Member States
Germany
Ireland
Italy
United Kingdom
India
Israel
Mexico

play their roles too, but nothing as concentrated dominated as this:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_media_ownership

Also see, or rather especially, in academia...
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/mid-tier-journals-risk-being-squeezed-out-monopoly-publishers
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby RocketMan » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:32 pm

What's the difference what you are called when your only passion seems to be advancing the narratives of a "progressive" segment of the vicious, rapacious US ruling class? I mean, it has to be a burning passion with this volume of posting if no one is paying you for it, right?
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby alloneword » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:13 pm

MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:50 pm wrote:
Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News

by Udo Ulfkotte Ph.D

https://www.amazon.com/Journalists-Hire ... 1944505474


It was a bestseller in German, then Ulfkotte died a very sudden death, and now the publication of that English translation has been stalled, without explanation, for nearly two years.


That reminded me, Mac... I was going to post this elsewhere, but now you mention it:



English transcript

..When I was sent to the Iran-Iraq war for the first time, the first time was from 1980 to July 1986, I was sent to this war to report for FAZ. The Iraqis were then ‘the good guys’.

I was bit afraid. I didn’t have any experience as a war reporter. Then I arrived in Baghdad. I was fairly quickly sent along in a bus by the Iraqi army, the bus was full of loud, experienced war reporters, from such prestigious media as the BBC, several foreign TV-stations and newspapers, and me, poor newbie, who was sent to the front for the first time without any kind of preparation. The first thing I saw was that they all carried along cans of petrol. And I at once got bad consciousness, because I thought: «oops, if the bus gets stuck far from a petrol station, then everyone chips in with a bit of diesel’. I decided to in the future also carry a can before I went anywhere, because it obviously was part of it.

We drove for hours through the desert, towards the Iraqi border. Approx. 20-30 kilometers from the border, there really was nothing. First of all no war. There were armored vehicles and tanks, burned-out long ago. The journalist left the bus, splashed the contents of the cans on the vehicles. We had Iraqi soldiers with us as an escort, with machine guns, in uniform. You have to imagine: tanks in a desert, burned out long ago, now put on fire. Clouds of smoke. And there the journalists assemble their cameras.

It was my first experience with media, truth in reporting.

While I was wondering what the hell I was going to report for my newspaper, they all lined up and started: Behind them were flames and plumes of smoke, and all the time the Iraqis were running in front of camera with their machine guns, casually, but with war in their gaze. And the reporters were ducking all the time while talking.

So I gathered courage and asked one of the reporters: ‘I understand one thing, they are great pictures, but why are they ducking all the time? ‘

‘Quite simply because there are machine guns on the audio track, and it looks very good at home.’

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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:41 pm

so odd Ulfkotte is a hard-right Islamophobe, if he’s not a Nazi himself

nice guy you two are linking to :thumbsup

you guys crack me up

save that English transcript I won't be reading it

After his departure from FAZ in 2003, Ulfkotte became known for his conspiracy theories, for instance claiming on his Kopp Verlag blog that Barack Obama ordered the burning of bibles,[9] that African sportsmen would "slaughter whites" if allowed into Germany,[10] or that Muslims were waging "fecal jihad" against Europe.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udo_Ulfkotte


JULY 30, 2007
Who Is Udo Ulfkotte?
Ulfkotte Spreading fear and hate can be an excellent business model today; witness the success of the Canadian journalist Mark Steyn, who has made $millions urging persecution of Muslims in North America and ridiculing Europe for becoming an Islamic stronghold (Eurabia). Likewise there are a number of "experts" in Germany who make a nice living warning citizens of a Muslim takeover of Europe. One of the most absurd has to be the journalist, would-be politician and "security expert" Udo Ulfkotte. Ulfkotte is aligned with the hate-blog Politically Incorrect, but is much more ambitious than your average blogger. Ulfkotte has started his own association - Pax Europa - which is dedicated to stopping the Islamicization of Europe. Recently Ulfkotte has announced that he wants to start a new political party in Germany - possibly to be called the Christlich-Ökologische Partei - which would emphasize "Christian" values over Islamic ones and reverse what he sees as "special rights" granted to the Muslim minority in Germany.

None of this is especially noteworthy; there are other "Islam-experts" such as Hans Peter Raddatz who regularly appear on television talk shows but who are not really taken seriously. What is different about Ulfkotte is his willingness to use his wealth to take legal actions against his critics. Omar at TooMuchCookies Network discusses recent actions taken by Ulfkotte and his attorneys against Jochen Hoff, a German blogger, for writing a critical blog post. Then Ulfkotte's sent a threatening letter to our blogger friend and colleague Big Berta simply for linking to that post in Watchblog Islamophobie.

Ulfkotte's legal bullying is really true to form for right-wing ideologues. The right-wing mindset has always been hostile to the idea of the free press. These people cannot win arguments in the marketplace of ideas, so they try to get satisfaction in the courts. I hope there is a Tsunami of criticism in the German blogosphere of Ulfkotte and his discredited ideas. The German press should no longer provide a forum to someone like Ulfkotte who obviously hates the principle of free speech.
http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/who-is-udo-ulfkotte/


Udo Ulfkotte and Fecal Jihad: Asymmetric Warfare or Crazy Conspiracy Theory?
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5 JULY 2011


Russell Blackford recently wrote a piece on Islamophobia that was reproduced by Richard Dawkins, in which he said,

“attacks on Islam..made opportunistically..cannot be dismissed out of hand as worthless.”

We responded on Twitter by saying that most attacks can be dismissed as worthless. Exhibit A: Conspiracy Theories.

Now here is a perfect example, from one Dr. Udo Ulfkotte, who thinks the recent E.coli outbreak in Germany is linked to Muslim immigrants’ importation of “fecal jihad.” After this, I don’t know who could compete for “the craziest conspiracy theory of the year award.” (hat tip: Sphinx and Jake)

Ulfkotte: Turkish women’s poor hygiene to blame for E.coli/EHEC outbreak
The writer and “Islam expert” Dr. Udo Ulfkotte has made a nice career for himself in Germany by spreading hate and fear against Muslims. In a recent interview he fantasized about all the “living space” (Lebensraum) ethnic Germans could have if only they could conduct forced deportation of all the Turkish and Arab people living in Germany. No matter that nearly all of Dr. Ulfkotte’s hateful diatribes are based on lies: he is a much sought-after guest for TV talk shows and discussion panels.

But even Dr. Ulfkotte may have outdone himself with his mostrecent piece on the right-wing Truther site of Kopp Verlag(with thanks to Politblogger). Germany is facing a health crisis due to vegetables tainted with E.coli. Naturally, Udo Ulfkotte seizes the opportunity for yet another attack on immigrants from Turkey:

Im »Erdbeerland« in Pottenstein und auf mindestens zehn weiteren Erdbeerplantagen erfand man den Hosenzwang, weil Türkinnen, die dort saisonal gearbeitet hatten, bei der Arbeit auf die Erdbeeren uriniert und zwischen den Pflanzen auch noch andere »größere Geschäfte« verrichtet hatten. … Bestimmte Migranten haben eben völlig andere Vorstellungen von Hygiene und der Einhaltung von Hygiene-Richtlinien als wir Europäer.

(In the “strawberry region” in Pottenstein (Austria) and on at least ten other strawberry farms workers are required to wear pants because Turkish women who were working there seasonally were urinating on the strawberries and even defecating among the plants….Certain migrants have a completely different concepts of hygiene than we Europeans.)

Dr. Ulfkotte goes on to describe a “fecal Jihad” being waged by Muslims against Europeans.

Thus far, there is zero evidence that the E.coli outbreak has any connection with strawberries, much less strawberries from Austria. Authorities believe rather that cucumbers from Spain may be to blame. But don’t look for a retraction or an apology from Dr. Udo Ulfkotte. He has never once retracted any of the numerous lies he’s published at Kopp Verlag or elsewhere.

Again, Ulfkotte is free to publish whatever he wishes, even if it’s mostly lies. What concerns me is that he is viewed by the German media as an “expert” and frequently appears on German television. They are lending to this fraud credibility he in no way deserves
http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/2011/0 ... cy-theory/


Opinion Islam
Villains of the pax
Khaled Diab
A controversial anti-Islam demonstration in Brussels, slated for September 11, has descended from tragedy to farce.
Tue 11 Sep 2007 04.00 EDT

.........
The anniversary of the September 11 2001 attacks is not the easiest time of year to be a western Muslim - and this year will be no exception. Although I can understand the fear violent Islamism elicits in many ordinary Europeans, I find it hard to accept how the threat is exaggerated and manipulated by certain interest groups for their own ends, stigmatising innocent, law-abiding Muslims in the process.

The anniversary of this sad day is a golden opportunity for certain groups to dust off their tired rhetoric and attack the "fifth columnists" in their midst - and a group of them have been planning a demonstration in Brussels against what they call the "Islamisation of Europe".


The demo was the brainchild of Udo Ulfkotte, a German ex-journalist turned self-proclaimed cultural crusader for "Christian values" and wannabe politician who has plans to set up an anti-Islam party in Germany. Ulfkotte teamed up with Danish, British and Belgian far-right activists. He linked his own Pax Europa with the Danish-British Stop Islamisation of Europe (SIOE) alliance and approached the far-right Belgian party Vlaams Belang (VB) for their assistance.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nsofthepax
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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

Postby Jerky » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:40 pm

AD exhibits far less spook-like behavior (i.e., he exhibits none) than the Usual Red Brown Suspects here do, that's an empirical and obvious fact.

Not saying that you're all spooks, per se. Just that you're the biggest bunch of Useful Idiots I've ever seen assembled in one space, obviously trying to either take it over for yourselves or just effectively dismantle it because those that control you can't stand to have even one, teeny-tiny little corner of the online conspiracysphere NOT be alt-right, Putinite fascist, or at the very least fascism-adjacent.

Hey Griz! I notice Russia isn't in your list of anti-journalistic hot-spots. Was that an accidental oversight on your part? Or were you just taking the piss?

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Re: Infiltration & Agent Provocateurs; Vision Tech; Endless

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