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Jeff » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:18 pm wrote:There's no way this won't sound anodyne, but isn't the board big enough for everyone?
I won't pretend to be up to speed on all of the disagreements here, but maybe that's good. The issues are maybe irrelevant to my point, which is that you don't all need to be pals, but maybe you do need to give each other some space.
I don't want anybody banned or the board to be heavily moderated. In return, all I'd like is some basic, online courtesy. Like not flooding someone's thread, or driving discussion off topic, or making vicious personal attacks. That kind of stuff.
Jeff out.
JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:15 am wrote:You should be more careful about constantly invoking a meaningless piece of "leave me alone" boilerplate from the same Jeff Wells who every day spends substantial time on other outlets angrily trashing exactly the same disinformation you flood this board with. I don't think you'd be too happy if you actually get him interested in this board again and examining the crap you do here.
Jeff » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:18 pm wrote:There's no way this won't sound anodyne, but isn't the board big enough for everyone?
I won't pretend to be up to speed on all of the disagreements here, but maybe that's good. The issues are maybe irrelevant to my point, which is that you don't all need to be pals, but maybe you do need to give each other some space.
I don't want anybody banned or the board to be heavily moderated. In return, all I'd like is some basic, online courtesy. Like not flooding someone's thread, or driving discussion off topic, or making vicious personal attacks. That kind of stuff.
Jeff out.
JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:54 pm wrote:2. Mere spreading is not the problem. The issue is flooding: relentless, by all forms, by thread proliferation and miles of uncommented copy-paste of daily bullshit lifted directly from corporate outlets that literally reach 10,000 times the readers as this forum, the output of which all here already know. It's like MSNBC and DNC have a local scold crew who will seek out any untoward statements and promptly reply with 25 screens of copy paste.
3. So I am saying SLAD has been flooding the board with a particular form of disinformation for years, specifically since the start of the #Russiagate psyop campaign.
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alloneword » 20 Oct 2019 23:13 wrote:JackRiddler » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:54 pm wrote:2. Mere spreading is not the problem. The issue is flooding: relentless, by all forms, by thread proliferation and miles of uncommented copy-paste of daily bullshit lifted directly from corporate outlets that literally reach 10,000 times the readers as this forum, the output of which all here already know. It's like MSNBC and DNC have a local scold crew who will seek out any untoward statements and promptly reply with 25 screens of copy paste.
3. So I am saying SLAD has been flooding the board with a particular form of disinformation for years, specifically since the start of the #Russiagate psyop campaign.
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It's all about 'signal to noise ratio'.
At least console yourself that it hasn't (yet) returned to the level of January 2017... A period where username 'SLaD' treated this forum to no fewer than 83 posts in a single day (UTC) - and that with a 4 hr + 1.5 hr break!
The next day saw a mere 49, a couple of days later saw 59. 'Output' that exceeds my own all-time total post count in less than a week.
'And what was the cause of this?', I hear you ask. What vital piece of information, what crucial issue, what Earth-shattering Global event prompted such dedication to communication with people such as ourselves? .... 'Trump piss-tapes'.
Not much I can add, really. That just about says it all.
Good luck appealing to some sense of shame, some shred of humility. There is next to none. Witness last March, when you highlighted a particularly egregious lie.
The 2 month break from the torrent of crap that ensued was most welcome (I believe I thanked you at the time), but alas, was not to last.
What I'm getting round to is simply this: You have to either filter it out, or (like so many before you) move elsewhere.
Every time you read or engage with it, every second you waste doing so, you're surrendering time - a piece of your life - to them that you will never, ever get back.
I still come here because I enjoy reading a lot of what gets posted here - particularly by yourself, plus a fair few others. A lot (but still not most, thankfully) of what gets posted here is utter dross. (Again, thankfully) the worst of it is supplied by the same handful of usernames, which makes filtering it out all the easier. I have no interest in what they're selling and I literally have no time wade through it.
To paraphrase an old adage:"If a shit C&P post is made on a forum, but nobody ever reads it, is it still a post?"
***<strikes tiny finger-cymbals together>***
SLAD, great work on the Wikileaks stuff - can you be persuaded to put it all in one thread for easy reference? (I know that's not your usual thing, please don't be annoyed.)
JackRiddler » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:14 pm wrote:seemslikeadream wrote:The boring truth about those Julian Assange smears
MICHAEL C. MOYNIHAN
According to prosecutors in Sweden, authorities in Stockholm will pursue a vague "molestation" charge against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange.
There is precious little evidence available in the public domain, though the few details circulating make me extremely sceptical of both the rape (which seems 100 per cent false) and molestation charges against Assange. More on that in a minute. But for the wild-eyed, spittle-flecked conspiracists bloggers - and Assange himself - the charges reeked of a U.S. government plot.
Automatic forfeit for leading with cliche ridicule. I see no reason to proceed.
SLAD, great work on the Wikileaks stuff - can you be persuaded to put it all in one thread for easy reference? (I know that's not your usual thing, please don't be annoyed.)
alloneword » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:13 pm wrote:MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:50 pm wrote:Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News
by Udo Ulfkotte Ph.D
https://www.amazon.com/Journalists-Hire ... 1944505474
It was a bestseller in German, then Ulfkotte died a very sudden death, and now the publication of that English translation has been stalled, without explanation, for nearly two years.
That reminded me, Mac... I was going to post this elsewhere, but now you mention it:
English transcript..When I was sent to the Iran-Iraq war for the first time, the first time was from 1980 to July 1986, I was sent to this war to report for FAZ. The Iraqis were then ‘the good guys’.
I was bit afraid. I didn’t have any experience as a war reporter. Then I arrived in Baghdad. I was fairly quickly sent along in a bus by the Iraqi army, the bus was full of loud, experienced war reporters, from such prestigious media as the BBC, several foreign TV-stations and newspapers, and me, poor newbie, who was sent to the front for the first time without any kind of preparation. The first thing I saw was that they all carried along cans of petrol. And I at once got bad consciousness, because I thought: «oops, if the bus gets stuck far from a petrol station, then everyone chips in with a bit of diesel’. I decided to in the future also carry a can before I went anywhere, because it obviously was part of it.
We drove for hours through the desert, towards the Iraqi border. Approx. 20-30 kilometers from the border, there really was nothing. First of all no war. There were armored vehicles and tanks, burned-out long ago. The journalist left the bus, splashed the contents of the cans on the vehicles. We had Iraqi soldiers with us as an escort, with machine guns, in uniform. You have to imagine: tanks in a desert, burned out long ago, now put on fire. Clouds of smoke. And there the journalists assemble their cameras.
It was my first experience with media, truth in reporting.
While I was wondering what the hell I was going to report for my newspaper, they all lined up and started: Behind them were flames and plumes of smoke, and all the time the Iraqis were running in front of camera with their machine guns, casually, but with war in their gaze. And the reporters were ducking all the time while talking.
So I gathered courage and asked one of the reporters: ‘I understand one thing, they are great pictures, but why are they ducking all the time? ‘
‘Quite simply because there are machine guns on the audio track, and it looks very good at home.’
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Two voting company execs who died in small plane crashes.
https://upload.democraticunderground.co ... =203x25601
Plane Crashes, WR Grace, Deadly Asbestos, WTC Collapse & Wellstone
https://www.democraticunderground.com/d ... 04x2047897
Wellstone Was Murdered"American Assassination," two professors explain how
https://www.democraticunderground.com/d ... 04x2332485
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