Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:32 pm

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A comment on the below tweet.

The fact that much of current discourse delineates topics pertaining to personal health, civil rights, & related discourse into "LEFT" or "RIGHT" talking points is one of the many deep failures of the last few years. This may have been practically inevitable due to so many factors and trendlines (years of conditioning, priming, shifting of sentiment incrementally, etc), but it's a damned shame ANYONE is forming opinions or decisions based on their political leanings as primary factor.

Individual agency in matters of health, civil rights, TRANSPARENCY in govt/bureaucratic decisions that IMPACT CITIZENS, ETC, should be championed by anyone/everyone regardless of politics. These should be universally agreed-upon interests.

It should not be that the "Left" is -- broadly, by many outward proclamations and/or by their deafening silence -- taking the position as depicted in the (albeit facile) image below.

But that's how it's been, generally. Even in this forum, it's been instructive to observe the SILENCE, even now, among those that were quite vocal in their general approval of covid measures back in 2020/2021 (and part of 2022) with relatively few caveats. The very few contributions from those forum members now are generally quick drive-by comments or passing snipes, but few to none are addressing and/or formally acknowledging just how egregiously wrong, unethical and counter to fundamental rights the policies/rhetoric (primarily championed by those on the "left"/"progressives" -- in name only these last few yrs, etc) were and are.

With respect to addressing the core topics of interest in this thread: There remains a refusal to acknowledge, clearly and unequivocally, the unprecedented harms committed. For a time, I speculated a subset of our fellow members were quietly, desperately hoping there could be some aspect of these vile policies that could be deemed 'justifiable'. But that ship has now almost entirely sailed over the horizon, forever out of view.

This is not an attempt to gloat. This is one last expression of the sheer disappointment felt as I observed so many (in my social circle and all over the world) buckle, keep silent, and succumb to fear/hate/censorship/fascist leanings when all we needed was a majority to say, "I prefer not to". [a nod to Bartleby the Scrivener]

The silver lining is that it appears there will be a (growing) subset that will REFUSE/RESIST, and apply CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE against any future attempts against the People. Perhaps these numbers will grow enough to markedly hamper the breadth of their subsequent overt control attempts. We shall see.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:49 pm

^^^^

Bravo!
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:46 pm

PufPuf93 » 19 Jun 2023 00:43 wrote:^^^^^^^^^^

You have no shame.


You have no argument. In fact, it appears that you have nothing but blind, reflexive tribalism that gives you complete faith that Hotez is 100% right and RFK, Jr. is 100% wrong and thus anyone siding with RFK, Jr.'s right to voice his arguments is deserving of shame and censorship. Please correct me if I am wrong by providing an argument.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby liminalOyster » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:41 pm

Still no word? It's 10:41 EDT.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:20 pm

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This entire video is worth watching if not already familiar with this Hotez entity, but among other noteworthy statements by this individual, starting at the ~7:20 mark there are clips of him from 2020 on network news warning AGAINST EUAs for covid vaccines, and the "unique potential safety problem of coronavirus vaccines" (direct quote from Hotez in March 2020 @ the 8:00 minute mark in the below video, among many other damning comments directly from Hotez himself). Of course he later drastically changed course once a new President was elected.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:15 am


The danger of consuming meat that was mRNA vaccinated
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:25 pm

“In a groundbreaking revelation, it has come to light that Dr. Peter Hotez, an esteemed vaccine researcher, has been entangled in a web of funding, collaboration, and research with Chinese military scientists potentially involved in the development of COVID-19. The intricate tale weaves together key Chinese military virologists and culminates in the smoking gun evidence surrounding COVID-19’s notorious furin cleavage site”

https://www.kanekoa.news/p/exclusive-dr-peter-hotezs-funding
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby liminalOyster » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:23 am

Report released from Director of National Intelligence is here as pdf.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:29 am

https://yournews-wire.com/twitter-suspends-big-pharma-whistleblower-who-exposed-us-militarys-involvement-in-covid-jabs/
Twitter Suspends Big Pharma Whistleblower Who Exposed US Military’s Involvement In Covid Jabs

Former pharmaceutical executive Sasha Latypova was suspended from twitter after claiming that the US military was involved with the creation and distribution of the so called Covid-19 vaccines.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:59 pm

^ Remaining fans of Elon Musk, take note.

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This here is an excellent presentation, clear and concise. Well worth sharing.

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Dr. Denis Rancourt Unveiling All-Cause Mortality: A Critical Analysis of the Pandemic Declaration and Vaccination Rollout | Ottawa Day One | NCI

https://rumble.com/v2ohtte-physicist-dr ... ty-ot.html

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:12 pm

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Rancourt's been largely spot-on from the onset.

Meanwhile:

Paul Offit
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The purpose of placebos, which are immunologically inert, is to determine the effect of the vaccine. All vaccine trials meet that standard. @AaronSiriSG believes that only water or salt water are placebos because they “have no effect on living beings.” That’s absurd. Drink enough water, and you can cause a seizure. Salt can also be toxic.

9:49 AM · Jun 26, 2023

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Dr. Offit, your revised definition of "placebo" as "immunologically inert" would focus on testing efficacy, not safety, which is precisely the substantive concern raised by @RobertKennedyJr and others when explaining that childhood vaccines are virtually never licensed based on trials that included a control group receiving an inert substance.

In addition, it is categorically false to claim that "all vaccine trials" included an "immunologically inert" control. This is because most childhood vaccine trials used other vaccines as a control, which, by definition, are immunologically active.

The use of vaccines as controls is highly concerning because the control vaccines were virtually never licensed based on a placebo-controlled trial – meaning "inert" per CDC/FDA. This is true even for trials of the first vaccine for a target disease. Hence, the safety of the subject or control vaccine was virtually never properly assessed in any clinical trial.

For example, Prevnar-13 was licensed based on a trial comparing it to Prevnar-7, and Prevnar-7 was licensed based on a trial comparing it to another experimental vaccine. "Serious adverse events reported following vaccination in infants and toddlers occurred in 8.2% among Prevnar 13 recipients and 7.2% among Prevnar 7 recipients." Meaning, equally safe by FDA standards. But equally unsafe by any other standard.

As another example, in Gardasil’s trial, 2.3% of the Gardasil group and 2.3% of the control group (which received an injection of a proprietary adjuvant which can cause autoimmune issues) had a suspected autoimmune disorder. Again, meaning equally safe by FDA standards. But equally unsafe by any other standard.

I trust you agree that the safety of products injected repeatedly into babies is very important. Without an inert comparator, harm can be obfuscated. While you label it "absurd" to define a placebo as having "no effect on living beings," that is, verbatim, the CDC’s definition of "placebo" in its Vaccine Glossary. What is "absurd" is to define a "placebo" as a vaccine or an adjuvant.

As this is a critically important issue, I gladly welcome a respectful in-person discussion where we each present our evidence regarding clinical trials for childhood vaccines to best understand each other’s position for the common goal of protecting children. Would you agree to have that discussion?

Sources:
CDC definition of “Placebo”: https://cdc.gov/vaccines/terms/glossary.html
Lack of placebo controls, pp. 3 - 7; even when no vaccine exists for target pathogen, including discussing Gardasil, pp. 7 - 11; using other vaccines as control, including discussing Prevnar, pp. 11 - 15; and trial conduct, pp. 17 - 31: https://icandecide.org/wp-content/upl

https://twitter.com/AaronSiriSG/status/ ... 23489?s=20

Aaron undresses Offit here. Carves him up effortlessly.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:52 pm

The WHO is evil and needs to be stopped.

New COVID Variant Has Unusual Symptom; WHO Launches Global Vax Passports
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:04 pm

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Fuck the WHO. The details of how these ‘passports’ will be enforced, or WHEN, or WHERE, exactly, remain TBD or unspecified in the info I came across so far. Refusal/Resistance must occur en masse.


While I’m here, an update to my last post Re: Siri and Offit.
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Dr. Offit backtracks.

@DrPaulOffit attacked @RobertKennedyJr for "misinformation" claiming "All vaccines are tested in placebo-controlled trials before licensure." Dr. Offit quietly updated that to now say "Most vaccines..." This is still patently false. https://icandecide.org/hhs/ICAN-Reply.pdf

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