US Presidential Election 2024

[Elvis]

Please what? Be specific.

[Elihu]

rand paul? seriously? it's hard to convey tone with inter-messages

[Elvis]

Rand Paul is an idiot who doesn't understand that savings in the economy comes from untaxed federal spending.

[SonicG]

Did the "Images Only" thread get nuked or ??

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Truly weird Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky reminds me of a spoiled brat without a properly functioning brain. He was terrible at DEBATE!
9:41 AM · Aug 11, 2015
from Manhattan, NY

(When I lived in a very rural part of Japan for three years, Mickie Ds and the Japanese "Mos Burger" chain were the only options for hamburgers so I ate them a few times and I remember that McDs always gave me a laxative effect soon after eating it...)

[SonicG]

Speaking of Make America Healthy Again, here's an interesting look at RFK Jr.'s throwing his lot in with the Trumpians.

The great RFK Jr. bamboozle of 2024: a brief history

https://www.mtracey.net/p/the-great-rfk ... le-of-2024
Doesn't mention vaccines or RFK Jr's penchant for swallowing Falun Gong propaganda but still a lot of interesting information although the whole panoply of US electoral politics is of course a highly depressing topic...

That ole Kennedy legacy though. Still getting my man mad laid over 60 years later:

After Olivia Nuzzi scandal, more women from anti-vax circles allege affairs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a prominent figure in both politics and the anti-vaccine movement, is facing a new wave of allegations involving romantic relationships with at least three women. According to a report by Mediaite, these women are linked to the Children’s Health Defense, the organization he chairs, known for its anti-vaccine stance. The allegations emerged shortly after the highly publicized "emotional and digital affair" between Kennedy and New York Magazine reporter Olivia Nuzzi. This scandal has led to further scrutiny, with sources suggesting that Kennedy's wife, actress Cheryl Hines, is considering ending their marriage.

Mediaite, citing two insiders with direct knowledge of the situation, reports that the three women began discussing their relationships with Kennedy after the news of his alleged affair with Nuzzi became public. The women, all connected to Kennedy through the Children’s Health Defense, reportedly shared their experiences with each other, leading to the recent accusations.

The situation gained traction after Mediaite reviewed text messages from one of the women, detailing her alleged relationship with Kennedy earlier this year. The report also notes that Kennedy has been on leave from his position as chairman and lead counsel of the Children’s Health Defense since April 2023. The break from his duties at the organization coincided with his presidential campaign, which he eventually suspended before endorsing Donald Trump for the 2024 elections.

Well-played by Trump strategists - get RFK Jr. out of the picture after stealing whatever anti-Deep State fuck Fauci etc. mojo he had. He'll be left out of the Cabinet and any other posts as Jared Kushner just continues right along to staff the WH with the worst pricks imaginable...

[SonicG]

Great timing! RFK Jr. comes out with a tweet to defend the good ol days when the Kennedys presided over an American Utopia! MFOTA!!

Robert F. Kennedy Jr

@RobertKennedyJr
Fast Food is a part of American culture. But that doesn’t mean it has to be unhealthy, and that we can’t make better choices. Did you know that McDonald’s used to use beef tallow to make their fries from 1940 until phasing it out in favor of seed oils in 1990? This switch was made because saturated animal fats were thought to be unhealthy, but we have since discovered that seed oils are one of the driving causes of the obesity epidemic. Interestingly enough, this began to drastically rise around the same time fast food restaurants switched from beef tallow to seed oils in their fryers.

People who enjoy a burger with fries on a night out aren’t to blame, and Americans should have every right to eat out at a restaurant without being unknowingly poisoned by heavily subsidized seed oils. It’s time to Make Frying Oil Tallow Again

Is beef tallow even economically feasible for fast food? Coconut oil was also used heavily before the seed oil takeover and has made a pretty good comeback recently but I don't think it would be feasible either.

[Belligerent Savant]

[Elihu]

drop predictions time:

what a show this has been. do i think they plan as far out as eight years at a time? yes, i do. if you think about it, joe grampy ain't no touchy feely woke liberal. I think he and the incumbent actress were foisted on the US these last four years in order to play their part in convulsing the nation with identity confusion and world peril. the immediate sense of relief when drumpf gets this landslide will be palpable. it sure will restore confidence in voting to fix whatever's wrong. kamala's acting. whether she's stoopid or not, she can be trained. you saw it in the debate. if they wanted her to be smart she would be, obviously.. so many tells. others have noticed this pattern throughout most of our country's history.

[Grizzly]

https://x.com/myhiddenvalue/status/1848589997135323491

French billionaire Philippe Argillier claims he has four databases that will expose 38 individuals who run the "shadow government". Bill Gates is one of those 38 individuals.

Surprise!

“The BlackRock CEO doubled down on saying the outcome of the US election, which will be decided in two weeks, won't matter in the long run.

'I'm tired of hearing this is the biggest election in your lifetime,' Fink told a conference .. 'The reality is over time, it doesn't matter,' he added.

He said that BlackRock works with both administrations and is 'having conversations' with both Vice President Kamala Harris and Republican nominee Donald Trump.”

https://archive.ph/ZO9kK

[Belligerent Savant]

^^^^ easy for him to say as Blackrock has quite the ‘diversified portfolio’ and will benefit regardless of outcome.

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…as a reminder: my position is that Trump is a Trojan horse/limited hangout variant, and increasingly, I’m leaning towards the notion that this election will not be close, at all. This is due in part to:

- The inclusion of Kennedy and Tulsi (and others) on Trump’s team;
- The inclusion of the Cheneys on Kamala’s team;
- Obama’s ill-timed ‘scolding’ of black men;
- Kamala presenting herself as incompetent, drunk, unhinged, incapable of articulating thoughts without a teleprompter;
- Kamala skipping the Al Smith dinner and instead opting for a cringe-inducing attempt at video skit presentation via an old SNL character (the last candidate to skip it lost 49 out of 50 states);
- Walz self-identifying as a ‘knucklehead’ and other awkward mannerisms relative to the crisp/articulate presentation of JD Vance;
- Mark Cuban the buffoon as billionaire spokesperson for Kamala as a poor counter to Musk
- etc, etc.

One can speculate/argue that the above developments are either poor decisions/strategies on the part of the Harris campaign, or part of a more elaborate ‘op’ with larger/longer-term aims, which include the near-term election of D.Trump as President once again.

Regardless, the Election outcome will be Lose / Lose for the citizenry. I anticipate certain events looming in the coming year (perhaps a long-anticipated market crash, some form of massive EMF solar flare event, etc). Or merely the continuation of the Clown Show as presented in earnest since ~2019.

Of course I may be wrong about all or some of the above.

We shall see.

[Belligerent Savant]

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My sentiment is largely in-line with drstrangelove in his last reply above.

That said, I didn’t vote for Bernie even though I liked much of his rhetoric; he exposed himself as a limited hangout/fraud in the last couple cycles, never even hinting of challenging legit indications of vote tampering at a time when he was gathering momentum. He has performed dutifully, in other words; he has minimal at best agency.

RFK Jr, alas, is also a limited hangout. I can type that his campaign will help broadcast many of the issues/concerns a number of us have raised here, and the value of getting such massaging out to a wider audience.

But there is an objective in play, and that objective will never be to get to ‘the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth’, and certainly not an objective that will offer a net benefit to the majority.

As with most mindfucks over the years, a carrot is being dangled and many will chase after it. It will never be caught, however, as a bait and switch will be waiting to replace that carrot at the appropriate time.

This is not to say we shouldn’t support current efforts, of course.

But as already alluded, true change will never come from within The System.

Best we can hope for (as I’ve stated a number of times here over the years) is pockets of like-minded communities disconnected from The Borg. There may even be swaths of regions across the world that can reach a close proximity to democratic ideals and/or collective benefit, while also maintaining agency.

We are far too broken, as a society, for any notable change at scale, at least within our foreseeable future. To the contrary, we’re trending towards further divide and hardship in the years ahead.

The majority of the masses are largely conditioned, primed, and influenced to react accordingly to manufactured presentations. If there is a silver lining, though, is that these markedly more overt measures over the last few years have also awakened a sizable percentage. These groups will chart frontiers elsewhere.

[Elihu]

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My sentiment is largely in-line with drstrangelove in his last reply above.

That said, I didn’t vote for Bernie even though I liked much of his rhetoric; he exposed himself as a limited hangout/fraud in the last couple cycles, never even hinting of challenging legit indications of vote tampering at a time when he was gathering momentum. He has performed dutifully, in other words; he has minimal at best agency.

RFK Jr, alas, is also a limited hangout. I can type that his campaign will help broadcast many of the issues/concerns a number of us have raised here, and the value of getting such massaging out to a wider audience.

But there is an objective in play, and that objective will never be to get to ‘the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth’, and certainly not an objective that will offer a net benefit to the majority.

As with most mindfucks over the years, a carrot is being dangled and many will chase after it. It will never be caught, however, as a bait and switch will be waiting to replace that carrot at the appropriate time.

This is not to say we shouldn’t support current efforts, of course.

But as already alluded, true change will never come from within The System.

Best we can hope for (as I’ve stated a number of times here over the years) is pockets of like-minded communities disconnected from The Borg. There may even be swaths of regions across the world that can reach a close proximity to democratic ideals and/or collective benefit, while also maintaining agency.

We are far too broken, as a society, for any notable change at scale, at least within our foreseeable future. To the contrary, we’re trending towards further divide and hardship in the years ahead.

The majority of the masses are largely conditioned, primed, and influenced to react accordingly to manufactured presentations. If there is a silver lining, though, is that these markedly more overt measures over the last few years have also awakened a sizable percentage. These groups will chart frontiers elsewhere.

year and a half ago when you're right you're right

[SonicG]

Trump just did three hours on Rogan. Spoke total nonsense but in a "coherent" manner. Heads also exploding over the WaPo's non-endorsement. Only 10 more days until the Emperor is returned to the throne:
https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1850039241205534887

45 and 47 reduces to 9-11...just sayin'

[Elihu]

45 and 47 reduces to 9-11...just sayin'

nice work Sonic! more woo please! On the bright side he likely only has four years. i doubt the implosion will happen on his watch. but the police state becoming official and public might.

[SonicG]

45 and 47 reduces to 9-11...just sayin'

nice work Sonic! more woo please! On the bright side he likely only has four years. i doubt the implosion will happen on his watch. but the police state becoming official and public might.

haha thanks but I think some QAnon nutters have probably really run with the 9-11 connection. However my mind did go to the Tarot Major Arcana (or Trumps lolz) - 46 of course reduces to 10.
Just to throw out the basics of these three cards:

The Hermit
The Hermit upright represents contemplation of the mysteries and the search for meaning through a process of deep self-reflection. The Hermit reversed suggests that you may be tuning out your inner wisdom and that you’re anxious and fearful of abandoning a sanctioned route and carving your own path.
This card symbolizes introspection, solitude, and seeking inner wisdom. It's a time for reflection and withdrawing from the external world to delve into one's own depths.

The isolation artificially imposed during Covid certainly resulted in solitude and introspection, some tuning in and some tuning out their Inner Wisdom with corresponding results, I'd say - note the bolded part above.

The Wheel of Fortune upright represents an acceptance of the flow of life and the ability to move with life’s changes. It heralds a time of opportunity and expansion. The Wheel of Fortune reversed suggests a resistance to change and a tendency to move against the current, causing tension and distress.
The Wheel of Fortune signifies change, cycles, and the unpredictable nature of life. It suggests that things are shifting and that there may be unexpected turns of events.

There is certainly a ton of changes, seemingly "unpredictable" occurrences that come as no surprise for anyone really observing what has been going on - I'm thinking specifically of Ukraine (simmering in the pot since 2014) and Israel (simmering since forever but Israel decided to push the wheel further to accelerate their slow-paced genocide of the Palestinians). The claim for change and a break from the past by Kamala shows she is trying, and most likely failing, to tap into this desire for real change...

Justice upright suggests a period of review of past actions and a consideration of their consequences in the present, whether negative or positive. Justice reversed represents the distortion of facts, the inability to see the truth, or an unwillingness to take responsibility for past actions.
Justice represents balance, fairness, and karma. It implies a need for making decisions based on truth and honesty, and facing the consequences of one's actions.

There is a seething for "Justice" on both sides - punish Trump, punish Hilary, punish Epstein and his cohorts. Shine a light and finally release all the JFK records (Trump mealy-mouthing on this issue on the Rogan show was hilarious).
A little more on Justice:

The ideals of Justice are not a neat system of punishment and reward: her concern is with the maintenance of a universal kind of harmony, a creative and dynamic perpetual rebalancing of opposing forces. In this way, the work of justice aspires to something more than what is simply fair: she aspires to justice as beauty, beauty as truth, and harmony as a creative expression of the divine made manifest on earth.

Ah, harmony. Such a lovely sounding word and idea, and something that seems so so far from our present cacophony.