Jill Stein is Seriously Dangerous

[Luther Blissett]

This is just rank misogyny.

[seemslikeadream]

^^^^^when it quacks like one......

That is unserious, but dangerous, bullshit -- a linkless unsubstantiated assertion from a crappy dumbfuck rightwing website. It is blatant disinfo.

Get a grip, slad.

Here's your get a grip.....I post ONE fucking link (and I'll admit I did it purposefully just to see which one of you would get on their high horse first) and you are on me pronto like stink on fucking shit ...but where were you when all this bullshit was going on...and you tell me to get a grip like I was lying about all the crap posted in the Clinton thread....you never read any of this? Why did you not immediately call bullshit on this crap....get off my ass

Washington Times

U.S. Senator Bob Corker Hillary and Vince:

Clinton Cash

Judicial Watch

Hillary's America" Trailer | Official Teaser Trailer HD
Dinesh D'Souza

Dinesh D’Souza’s Vile, Racist, Homophobic Tweets Mocking Deaths Of Alison Parker And Adam Ward
Convicted Felon Dinesh D'Souza Now Tweeting Out Homophobic and Racist Slurs to Save Career

at least even Nordic agreed with me here ....but you are no where to be found

I have to agree with SLAD here, Dinesh D'Souza should never even be acknowledged even if his facts are right.

He is pure scum.

If the facts presented are valid, I say present them some other way.

We have to have standards.

I'm seeing people post Anti-Hillary vids by James O'Keefe the last couple of days too. Ignoring just who he is. He's really got his foot in the door and it seems no matter how many times he's discredited/humiliated, he just keeps coming back, slicker and with higher production values.

Ugh.

Also I tried watching Clinton Cash but got so frustrated with the slow pace of it, the emotional bullshit way it's presented with all the music and slow-mo crap designed to elicit an emotional response rather than convey information I had to walk away. Ain't nobody got time for that. If there's a transcript I'd like to read it because I could actually read the info in 2 minutes rather than sit through a 27 minute video.

I hate that about videos. I just want to read. It's so much more efficient.

http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/brea ... interview/

washingtonsblog
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/as ... e-169.jpeg

all the fucking faked Clinton dying videos

you call it just a joke but me it's get a grip

2 clinton cash videos

most of backtoiam's posts and the one he deleted and got banned for a month for

http://www.wakingtimes.com/wp-content/u ... -rally.jpg

David Seaman

If you're bored and looking for something to snoop around on search "Hillary catheter" and you will find a lot. Or search "hillary concussion." This woman is a lot sicker than I realized unless this is an elaborate hoax and I do not believe at all that it is a hoax. I believe she is in deep trouble and I can't believe they expect her to last through the election at the rate she is going. I guess they figure if they can keep her on her feet until the election they can keep her hidden and roll her out for camera appearances or something. I don't know.

Rumors are flying that the coughing fits are caused by Oropharyngeal Cancer and that she is wearing a foley catheter under that big baggy pants suit which would make sense. I absolutely believe the Foley part of it. I have seen a lot of pictures of her tonight with what appears to be a hose running down her leg to her knee to an auxillary collection bag that attaches to a Foley catheter which is used for people that cannot control their bladder. She probably has a colostomy bag too. The auxillary bag on a Foley runs down the leg and connects to the knee. This is the hose but I let the best picture of the smaller collection bag on the knee get away from me. I had too many sites flying open and closed.





This big dude stays by her side all the time and is rumored to be a doctor or neurosurgeon. Probably neurosurgeon because she has past head injuries. I had his supposed name twice and lost the site from having too many tabs open at once. I'm gonna hunt for it again.



Look in his left hand. That is an injection pen with meds in it. Probably an anti seizure or anti convulsive.


This is an example of an injection pen with Diazepam but I don't know what is in the one the big dude is carrying.



Below as you can see here this is not normal behavior for security people. They don't run on stage just because people are hollering or heckling. Look at that blank stare on here face. She is about to have a seizure or pass out. He says to here "Its ok, just keep talking" and she is dazed and just repeats what he says. Hillary is tough as iron and there was no threat from the crowd. I feel certain this is a doctor. Security starts to scramble around on stage in a confused manner. I assume they are afraid they might have to carry her off stage. Big dude slips up behind her and I am wondering if she snapped out of it on her own or if he hit her with the injection pen.

https://youtu.be/119AmkkXAR4


I have a little more I think but my notepad file is trashed and disorganized and I have to sort it out and see what I have left that may be of interest. I can't believe they plan to try to push her through this election and into office. I guess they just want to capture the Big Seat and are scrambling and planning what to do after they have captured the Presidency.

Here is a gif that isolates that mini seizure she had. This is not the Hillary we know. Hillary eats hecklers and spits out nails and needs no comfort. She lost herself for a little bit. See how he pats her on the back and comforts her? I don't think he hit her with the injection pin though because you can see his hands most of the time. She snaps out of it as quickly as it started.


Another shot of her catheter hose.


Somebody changed the color on her leg to make the hose show up better on this one.




She looks really rough here. I think that is her big dude handler and doctor on the right side of the screen behind the bald headed guy. I'm going to cruise for his name again next. I lost it.


These glasses are like a Fresnel lens type glasses. They help with dizziness and coordination when people are unsteady on their feet and feel dizzy. She must be having bouts of double vision because that is what they are primarily for.





She didn't have her glasses on in this video and I think her depth perception may have been off and she couldn't navigate that little hump between the stairs and the plane floor.
https://youtu.be/TFTwc6tcZdA


The following is definitely some sort of neurological problem. I don't know if this is seizure activity or neurological damage from the concussion she had or both.
https://youtu.be/Hd4NH9jKNas

This guy is starting to show up on the web now as her possible handler and doctor.

UPDATE (August 9, 2016):

Burly Black Man is most likely Oladotun Okunola, M.D., of the Neuroscience Center of Northern New Jersey, who specializes in epilepsy. The picture in his profile shows a man who, although younger and thinner, has the same facial features as Burly Black Man.



https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/0 ... -seizures/

Whoever it is he follows her with that auto injector like a puppy.
https://youtu.be/P4ey6XE775A





This is what she supposedly has. I guess we will have to wait and see if it grabs traction.

Oropharyngeal cancer is a disease in which malignant cells form in the tissue of oropharynx. The oropharynx is the middle part of the throat that includes the base of the tongue, the tonsils, the soft palate, and the walls of the pharynx.[1] Oropharyngeal cancers can be divided into two types, HPV-positive, which are related to human papillomavirus infection, and HPV-negative cancers, which are usually linked to alcohol or tobacco use.[2]

Take this for instance. Right now I'm wondering if this is a defibrillator vest out of sheer boredom and it gives me something to do attempting to figure it out. If it were Trump I would be digging in his dirt bag too and I will if the orange one becomes President. I do this for fun.

Horizontally I think its too big to simply be her microphone package and look at that feed bag of a dress she is wearing. These huge clothes she is wearing, along with other clues I am finding, is suggestive that she is carrying some health gear under those clothes.

Am I right? I'm not sure yet but I enjoy the hunt.

She almost faceplanted into that van.

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39666&p=610401&hilit=+Rumor+flying+about+that+Julian+Assange+says+Bernie+#p610401

Rumor flying about that "Julian Assange says Bernie Sanders was threatened to make him drop out" I find it doubtful but is flying about and should be stopped if untrue.

ORIGIN:On 29 August 2016, the unreliable web site USA Supreme published an item claiming that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told journalist John Pilger that Bernie Sanders won the Democratic presidential nomination but dropped out of the race after he was threatened.

I don't know if you saw this but this was another reason the rumor flew around the internet. A picture of Bernie with a bruise on his cheek and a deep gash. It looks a little too deep to be a shaving razor cut. Supposedly this picture was taken at the Democratic National Convention although I have no idea if that is true. There are other pictures from the DNC with him in the same pose and facial expression so I suspect it did come from the DNC.

This came from some facebook page. I don't know if you saw this but this was another reason the rumor flew around the internet. I mages are not posting for me today for some reason.

This is the most clear picture.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 095&type=3



This is from the DNC supposedly when they announced who got the nomination.


http://img2-2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016 ... 02-800.jpg

If pneumonia, than it's possibly a complication of Parkinson's from aspirating saliva. Which would also be consistent with the history of coughing fits.

Among the motor symptoms of Parkinson's are: rigidity, slowness of movement, and postural instability, all of which are observable on video.

Parkinson's, obviously, is my guess as to what's going on. If the present subterfuge can't be maintained over time, the media back-pedaling to follow will at least be entertaining and at best game-changing. They are clearly complicit.

That rumor has been going around for two weeks and this doctor agrees with you. The host is considering the opinion of one doctor a confirmed diagnosis but we all know that is a stretch. This is an interview with the doctor and he says she has had it for ten years .

Dr. Ted Noel, who spent 32 years working in critical care and anesthesia and 10 years as the medical director of a surgical center, says it is his opinion that Hillary Clinton has Parkinson’s disease based on her symptoms.
September 10th, 2016

He is sure she has known about it for quite a while because her head-bobbing symptom is a common side effect of the drug, Levodopa, that usually takes about ten years to manifest. Hillary exhibits ten signs of Parkinson’s, including tremors, freezes, slow movement, dyskinesia, posture rigidity, swallowing disorder, and loss of balance. Parkinson’s is a disqualifying disease for a high-stress position such as the presidency.



https://youtu.be/8XtIzH9HoC8



http://investmentwatchblog.com/dr-ted-n ... arkinsons/

I'm not making any claims. Just passing along observations, but these are the types of subtle patterns of information I look for. Like the catheter/colostomy situation no data points by themselves were definitive but as a group they were telling me a story. After seeing that thing fall out of her pants leg I would say maybe that was true. Snopes said that injector was a flashlight but It wasn't. I'll miss here pretty soon so go easy on me when I do.

Now I am seeing other subtle patterns. Democratic Party to have meeting to discuss Hillary's replacement. News media saying over and over she just needs to, for lack of better words and paraphrase, "stay out of sight and get some rest." WABC-TV reports her death. Coming out of the apartment she looks a lot thinner face and legs all of a sudden. She supposedly has had pneumonia for a week but has her hands on that child. Secret service not stuck to her when she comes out of apartment.


Rumors that there is a mini hospital in that apartment building.

METROCARE HOME SERVICES, INC.

21 East 26th Street, 4th Fl
New York, NY 10010
Note: This facility is closed or has merged with another facility. Information here is maintained for historical purposes only.

https://profiles.health.ny.gov/home_health/view/18676

Provider First Line
Business Mailing
Address
21 E 26TH ST
The first line mailing address of the provider being
identified. This data element may contain the same
information as ''Provider first line location address''.

http://www.hipaaspace.com/Medical_Billi ... 597084.pdf

Cokie Roberts saying Joe Biden considered as her replacement:

“The fact that it comes now when the polls are tightening and Democrats are already saying that Hillary was the only candidate who could not beat Trump and it is taking her off of the campaign trail, canceling her trip to California – it has them very nervously beginning to whisper about having her step aside and finding another candidate.”

“I think it is unlikely to be a real thing,” she added. “And I’m sure it is an overreaction of an already skittish party. But you know, they have looked at what happens in that circumstance. The Democratic National Committee chair convenes the committee and they vote. Now ironically, the candidate who everybody looks at is Joe Biden, who is older than Hillary Clinton. But then again, so is Donald Trump and by the way we know nothing about his health.”

When she came out of Chelsea's apartment she looks 30 pounds lighter all of a sudden, at a minimum. Look at her skinny face. Where did those big old cheeks go? Look how thin the legs are. Of course this could be weight loss from being sick, but, that much this quick? How?

One thing I have also noticed is at the 911 memorial the big dude was absent. I guess he got so much press they decided to cut him from the detail? Him publicly carrying that injector still bugs the hell out of me for some reason though. They knew it would be obvious so why did they do that?


https://youtu.be/8fVC9qWeMW8




If that is Hillary it is a radical change in appearance.

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Now this popped up. Does the dailymail know something they are hinting at but cannot say?

Is this the greatest Hillary lookalike in the world? Advertising executive quit her job to impersonate the presidential candidate full-time

Teresa Barnwell, 61, earns thousands for impersonating Hillary Clinton
She became a full-time lookalike after Bill Clinton became president
Barnwell said Clinton was 'really lovely' when they met at a book signing

Published: 05:28 EST, 11 July 2016 | Updated: 08:08 EST, 11 July 2016

This former advertising executive bears such a striking resemblance to US presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton that she quit her job to work as a full-time lookalike.

Clinton's 'twin', Teresa Barnwell, 61, earns thousands every month for impersonating the presumptive Democratic nominee.

She stands to earn even more if the former Secretary of State defeats business mogul Donald Trump, the presumptive nominee for the Republicans, this November and becomes president.


Teresa Barnwell earns thousands for impersonating presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton




Barnwell quit her job in advertising and has been a full-time Hillary Clinton lookalike for more than 20 years




Barnwell (left) said Clinton was 'really lovely' when they meet at a book signing in Los Angeles in 1996

[/img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/11/10/35FA028100000578-3684267-image-a-74_1468231106708.jpg[/img]

Barnwell, from Palm Desert, California, was first told she looked identical to Clinton, 68, when she was playing a slot machine more than 20 years ago.

When Bill Clinton became the 42nd president in 1993, she was bombarded by people telling her she was the first lady's doppelganger.

Because they looked so much alike, she decided to quit her job in advertising 23 years ago and become a full-time Clinton impersonator.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4K0PRqm93

I'm not saying she died. But I can see, at this point, a possibility that she is gravely ill and they might use a double coming out of that apartment to make it appear as if she is up and spunky.

Parkinson's Disease (PD) with Dyskinesia Tremors - Blue Glasses with Blue Lenses



Looking through a blue plastic sheet or wearing blue glasses or glasses with blue lenses may help relieve the symptoms of dyskinesia caused by Parkinson's Disease, a neurological disorder. Dyskinesia may also appear after long term use or high dosage of drugs used to treat psychosis such as schizophrenia.
Tardive Dyskinesia Symptoms
Blue Glasses and Parkinson's Disease (PD) with Dyskinesia Tremors Symptoms of Parkinson's Disease dyskinesia tremors may be relieved by wearing blue color therapy glasses.

Symptoms of tardive dyskinesia are involuntary, repetitive body movements with no meaning to them. These can be rapid, uncontrollable movement of the arms and legs, or movements like tongue protrusion, lip grimacing, smacking, rapid blinking of the eye, pursing and puckering of the lips. These severe involuntary movements of the extremities can be debilitating.
Dyskinesia and Blue Glasses with Blue Tinted Lenses

It seems amazing, but simply looking through the color blue may help relieve the symptoms of dyskinesia. This YouTube video shows a man with severe involuntary movement. He can hardly sit in a chair without falling out and he has difficulty walking. But simply looking through a sheet of blue plastic or wearing glasses with blue lenses relieves the symptoms to a great degree. He can even walk normally.

Watch this video to see the amazing change this man who had Parkinson's Disease (PD) with dyskinesia experiences when he looks through the color blue.

http://www.colorglasses.com/Color-Thera ... e-Glasses/

Wow this is a trip. Watch this. At 3:47 a guy with Parkinsons can barely even sit in a chair or walk without gyrating wildly. He puts on a pair of blue sunglasses and immediately chills out. He gets up and walks almost normally. That is one of the most remarkable medical things I have ever seen.

https://youtu.be/q5mYx5oCxEg

Trigger warning: This research as you might suspect comes from a conservative origin as they are the ones most interested in seeking out information about the Democratic presidential candidate and publishing it online as they are of course very interested in looking for clues as to the true nature of Hillary's health problems. However I do not feel that it discredits all details in the research. This posting is not to be construed as definitive proof of any particular health malady Hillary may or may not be suffering from.

Posted on September 13, 2016
Metrocare Home Services and Chelsea’s Condo – With the Clintons there are no Coincidences

There are no coincidences when you’re dealing with the Clintons. Left is right and right is left and reality is unreality in the twisted 3D universe they inhabit.

After collapsing at the 9/11 Memorial on Sunday, Hillary Clinton’s aides demanded that she be taken to her daughter, Chelsea’s multi-million dollar condo at 21 E. 26th St. 4th Floor, New York, NY 10010. Following protocol, the Secret Service wanted to take Mrs. Clinton to the ER at Bellevue Hospital, not to a private residence.

As reported by US Defense Watch and Free Republic last night, Chelsea Clinton’s apartment is currently on the same floor and at the exact address as Metrocare Home Services, a medical home services company.

The Whitman Building (http://therealdeal.com/2012/06/29/milli ... tion-loan/), across from Madison Square Park was renovated for condominiums in 2012. Chelsea and her husband moved into their residence in 2013 after their fourth floor apartment, the once and perhaps future home of Metrocare Home Services was remodeled that same year by Jeffrey Cole Architects of Manhattan. The remodeling work cost a mere $40,000 and was started in August of 2013.

What are the chances that Chelsea Clinton would pick a building formerly occupied by a medical home services company?

What are the chances that Chelsea Clinton would choose to live on the exact floor and in the exact condo where a medical home services company once operated?

There are no coincidences, especially when you’re dealing with the Clintons.

Apparently, Metrocare is no longer at the address in the Whitman Building. According to Free Republic:

Metrocare Home Services, which has apparently entered into a management agreement with Tri-Borough Home Care, LLC. Metrocare Home Services, Inc. is solely owned by Metrocare Grantor Trust, with Robert Silbering, Esq. as the sole Trustee. Metrocare Home Services, Inc. entered into a management agreement with Tri-Borough Health Careers, LLC ,which was approved by the Department of Health on December 19, 2011. The sole member of Tri-Borough Health Careers, LLC d/b/a Metro Care Home Services, a division of Tri-Borough Health Careers, LLC is Kenrick L. Cort, President and CEO. Kenrick Cort is also President & CEO of Tri-Borough Home Care, LTD.

One of Tri-Borough’s (http://www.triboroughhomecare.com/) specialties is caring for those suffering from Parkinson’s Disease; yet, another coincidence.

The company is registered by the State of New York as an active business and is represented by the law firm, White Williams LLP. Metrocare Home Services, formerly called Family Aides Home Care has a current address of: 120 WEST JOHN STREET HICKSVILLE, NEW YORK, 11801-1016. (https://appext20.dos.ny.gov/corp_public ... lts_page=0)

Metrocare has a dubious past.

The former CEO of Metrocare Home Services (http://www.ag.ny.gov/sites/default/file ... 0final.pdf) and Family Aides Home Care companies, William C. Schnell was convicted of stealing Medicaid dollars following a multi-year investigation and audit. Schnell pleaded guilty to grand larceny in the third degree on April 19, 2007. On August 18, 2008, the court sentenced Schnell to a conditional discharge and ordered him to pay restitution of $212,118 and penalties of $424,236. Schnell is now barred for life from participating in the Medicaid and Medicare programs.

Obviously, many questions still remain unanswered. When did Metrocare abandon the Whitman Building? Did Metrocare, now Tri-Borough Home Care leave a private medical facility in place for Hillary Clinton to use, away from the prying eyes of the media? Was the $40,000 remodeling fee for medical equipment?

Furthermore, and as stated earlier, why did Chelsea Clinton choose to live in the same building, and on the same floor where a medical home services clinic was located?

With the Clintons, there are no coincidences.

http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/09/metro ... ncidences/

I have been seeing pictures of this floating around but I didn't post them because pictures are so easy to photoshop. This is the first video I have seen. She was wearing those thick Fresnel lens looking glasses for a while to correct her eyes. These videos appear to show that her eyes are not tracking in unison and moving independently of one another.

First one is slowed down. Second vid is original speed. It is hard to see in the original speed because the eye movements are rapid but if you look closely enough you can see it.

https://youtu.be/eiR1QR0E-JA



https://youtu.be/x72oBpk9WPI

Think you're informed about the Clinton server and foundation? So did I - until...
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com ... erver_and/
this Judicial Watch panel on 9/29/16. There's a TON of info we haven't heard. This is going places

[MacCruiskeen]

[norton ash]

I'm with Mac, SLAD, your anger is leading you to wallow too deeply in this whole pile of shit.

[MacCruiskeen]

Margaret Kimberley, writing two months ago:

August 19, 2016
Liberal Hate for the Green Party

by Margaret Kimberley

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/19/ ... een-party/

Liberals have joined Hillary Clinton’s “big nasty tent” in a very big way. They have moved far beyond the usual rationales for sticking with the Democrats and are now carrying on a full-fledged hate fest. Their targets are Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein and her running mate Ajamu Baraka, who is also a Black Agenda Report editor and columnist.

The screeds have become more and more extreme and defy the run of the mill rationales that progressives use to justify remaining within Democratic Party lines. Holding one’s nose and voting for the “lesser evil” democrat is passé. So is fear of Republican judicial appointments. Concern for abortion rights doesn’t cut it anymore.

Liberals are no longer going through the motions of criticizing the Democrat. Instead they openly show love for Hillary Clinton and disdainfully pile on Stein and Baraka with fury. The blog Wonkette called Jill Stein “cunty” and “a mendacious nihilist piece of shit.” The site Very Smart Brothas declared that a vote for Stein was akin to putting it in the trash. They also threw in a dig at Cornel West because he dared to criticize Barack Obama. The Huffington Post chose to deride Green Party convention delegates because they ate at McDonald’s. Gawker tried to link Ajamu Baraka to holocaust denial. His unassailable human rights credentials didn’t mean much when the media decided to go into attack mode.

The list is long and will get longer between now and Election Day. The degree of antipathy is actually quite useful. It tells us why the Green Party is so important and why liberals are such a dangerous enemy.

They are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They spend years wringing their hands because Republicans control state legislatures but when the recently released DNC emails show that the party starves local races of money they say nothing. When they spoke up at all they made a big deal about a spurious Russian hacker connection to Donald Trump.

There is no longer any pretense of claiming a desire for systemic change or even calling themselves progressives. They are “with her” — as the slogan goes — and her illegal activities and record of mass killing don’t dissuade them from supporting her.

Liberals don’t want the Democrats to change. They cling to a bizarre hope for reform, nibbling around the edges while keeping the criminals in charge. They prefer to look down their noses at Trump supporters or consider themselves the cool kids in the high school clique. When they have an opportunity to make history and begin the process of dismantling the hold of the Democratic Party they instead become quite vicious on their behalf.

Donald Trump is the perfect foil for their con game. His open appeals to racism and unpredictable statements and behavior give them an excuse to do nothing except make excuses for the very crooked Mrs. Clinton.

They don’t even feign concern when Republicans who contributed to Chris Christie and John Kasich start doling out dollars to Hillary. They long ago gave up on fighting for peace and just as the name Trump is a one-word attack ad, questions about foreign policy turn into harangues directed against Vladimir Putin.

Liberals have sided with the ruling classes and resist anyone pointing out the truth. While they falsely accuse Jill Stein of being anti-vaccine, even after she clearly stated she was pro-vaccine, American police departments keep up their body count. The United States risks war with China and Russia and unemployment is still high. But they say nothing about any of those issues. They cheerlead for Hillary Clinton just as they did for Barack Obama and will say nothing against her once she is in office.

The election of 2016 will be a notable one in history but for all the wrong reasons. Millions of people voted for the not-so-left wing Bernie Sanders who wasn’t serious about denying Clinton the nomination. Yet it must be said that they wanted change within the Democrat Party. He left his followers high and dry and made the case for the people who feared and scorned his half-hearted campaign.

While Democrats were confused about what made a candidate a progressive, the Republicans were following a new leader. Donald Trump was a political novice who used free media attention and blatant appeals to white nationalism to win the nomination. But Trump makes statements which don’t sit well with the Republican establishment. He went on record saying that the trade deals beloved by the duopoly are harming American workers. He asked reasonable questions about United States/Russian relations. He was then used to invent numerous lies about the Russian president, who was already demonized by the media and the ruling classes.

Liberals are now quite deranged and applaud a woman who will crush their feeble agenda as soon as she says the oath of office. Progressives and big money Republicans are now on the same page and that is why Stein and Baraka face so much scrutiny and so many big lies.

The Green Party’s existence is proof that the Democratic Party emperor has no clothes. The logical progression of success for the Greens is the end of the party which claims to be more inclusive and the champion of working people and human rights. It does none of those things while the party which actually articulates these policies has been designated an enemy.

In this case the enemies of the enemy are most definitely our friends.


Margaret Kimberley writes the Freedom Rider column for Black Agenda Report, where this essay originally appeared.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/19/ ... een-party/

[Luther Blissett]

Backtoiam is a far right Alex Jones all lives matter men's rights activist who thinks that we're still in the peak of the late 80s early 90s crack and AIDS epidemic.

[MacCruiskeen]

Why not start a thread entitled "backtoiam Is Seriously Dangerous"?

[coffin_dodger]

LB said:

Backtoiam is a far right Alex Jones all lives matter men's rights activist

What would you do with all these 'far right-wing' citizens if you had any power, Luther?

Seriously - please address this question.

[norton ash]

LB said:

Backtoiam is a far right Alex Jones all lives matter men's rights activist

What would you do with all these 'far right-wing' citizens if you had any power, Luther?

Seriously - please address this question.

What would Luther 'do with them?'

Yeesh, someone just tipped their far-right fascist hand.

[seemslikeadream]

apparently Trump is their common denominator

[coffin_dodger]

LB said:

Backtoiam is a far right Alex Jones all lives matter men's rights activist

What would you do with all these 'far right-wing' citizens if you had any power, Luther?

Seriously - please address this question.

What would Luther 'do with them?'

Yeesh, someone just tipped their far-right fascist hand.

They exist, Norton. We are constantly, unremittingly reminded of that fact. They crave power. They are the most scary people in your midst. They must be stopped. How are you going to stop them?

[Luther Blissett]

LB said:

Backtoiam is a far right Alex Jones all lives matter men's rights activist

What would you do with all these 'far right-wing' citizens if you had any power, Luther?

Seriously - please address this question.

Well the type of future I dream about is one with collective power so if I were ever given any power it would immediately reform into some form of consensus-sharing mutual aid people power.

So I suppose they would be working on consensus building, collectivist decision-making, empathy and understanding, workshopping, seizing the means of production from power, and enjoying fully automated luxury space communism.

This leaves room not only for dissent, but for dropping out as well. Though I think a real version of no-masters leftism would work well enough for everyone that it wouldn't be seen as such anymore and loop back around to make even the reactionaries happy.

[coffin_dodger]

LB said:

Backtoiam is a far right Alex Jones all lives matter men's rights activist

What would you do with all these 'far right-wing' citizens if you had any power, Luther?

Seriously - please address this question.

Well the type of future I dream about is one with collective power so if I were ever given any power it would immediately reform into some form of consensus-sharing mutual aid people power.

So I suppose they would be working on consensus building, collectivist decision-making, empathy and understanding, workshopping, seizing the means of production from power, and enjoying fully automated luxury space communism.

This leaves room not only for dissent, but for dropping out as well. Though I think a real version of no-masters leftism would work well enough for everyone that it wouldn't be seen as such anymore and loop back around to make even the reactionaries happy.

Thank you for responding. But let us imagine beyond the utopia of what you dream of; to dissenters amongst the ranks. I apologise for bursting a bubble here, but there will be people who don't agree with your ideals. They will continue to hold views at odds to your own. How will you deal with this problem?

[Luther Blissett]

Well I did say that this leaves room not only for dissent, but for dropping out as well.

Try to really imagine a world without money. I imagine some small band will try to implement some primitive economic cash and coin system out on a cape away from all the utopia. Try to imagine this in Star Trek. What would be the point? They can, but would you imagine they really would? Why?

What other ideals are we talking about?

[coffin_dodger]

What other ideals are we talking about?

The system you are immersed in is powered by domination, heirarchy, money, the constant promotion of self-gratification and a dog eat dog mentality. The majority of people, whilst uncomfortable with the means required to sustain this status quo, balk at actually changing it. Changing means less.

The Left needs to devise a plan for super-abundancy for all.